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Answer to expensive wolf paws?

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment' started by pieperlc, Dec 16, 2008.

  1. pieperlc

    pieperlc Senior Member
    from 4-5
    Messages: 177

    Did I just find everyones ability to dodge the high price of wolf paws?

    http://www.gemplers.com/eight-hole-ag-wheels

    I'm not a tire/rim guy, but am learning since I've started looking for an alternative to chains & wolf paws. Seems these are the rims that would fit skid steer loaders with different tire options. Seems tires are easier to come by than rims. Comments? Am I just an idiot?
     
  2. jkitterman

    jkitterman Senior Member
    Messages: 140

    I am not sure if Ag / off road rims have different bead types than on road rims and tires. You would have to check with a place that is familiar with both.
     
  3. jkitterman

    jkitterman Senior Member
    Messages: 140

    You also need to check your bolt circle diameter. It may be 8 on 8 1/2 inch.
     
  4. rob1325

    rob1325 Senior Member
    Messages: 297

    I bought these rims from Gemplers
    http://www.gemplers.com/product/8513/8-Hole-16x6-1-1-8-4000-Ag-Wheel

    And bough these tires, the 7.50x16LT tubeless
    http://www.stausaonline.com/light-truck/super-traxion.html


    I wanted more traction and priced wolf paws and were closed to 1,700 but bought this combo for close to 800. I used them for 5hrs in one little storm and it did work out great with no problems so far. I painted the rims to match my Cat 262 and looked good. Have no pics but will try to get some for you.

    Rob
     
  5. StuveCorp

    StuveCorp Senior Member
    Messages: 341

    I have always wanted to run something like the wolfpaws but they are way over priced. You are not an idiot for trying to improve your machines performance at lower cost. I have a set a Ford 3/4 ton wheels that I just have never fitted to the skid. I saw a tire that had carbide pieces that were molded in but can't remember the name, they were around 80-100 per tire I think. Has anyone had problems rolling the tire off the rim? When you get in to the bigger skids I have wondered if this could be a problem?
     
  6. pieperlc

    pieperlc Senior Member
    from 4-5
    Messages: 177


    Those tires and rims are exactly what I was looking at. I got a price on the tires and with the rims I would have about $800 as well. I'm putting them on a Cat 252 which is nearly the same as the 262. Where are you located? I can't find a local place to buy the tires, so I would have to have them shipped in. How much of an improvement was made in traction? Does the setup seem beefy enough to hold up to skid steer use? I'm running a 10' Daniels blade that weighs in at over 1100lbs.
     
  7. pieperlc

    pieperlc Senior Member
    from 4-5
    Messages: 177


    I couldn't find any truck rims that have an 8x8 bolt pattern. What pattern do your ford rims have? I too wonder how the sidewalls would stand up to the abuse. The tires mentioned above are (I think) the ones that snow wolf sells as wolf paws. I got quoted about $125 per tire plus 100 for shipping. Didn't seem to out of line for a special tire. Anyone else have any comments about the setup? Good or bad.
     
  8. rob1325

    rob1325 Senior Member
    Messages: 297

    My setup is on a Cat 262 Skid steer. Biggest they made at the time. I used it with my homemade 9' pusher which weights as much as your daniels if not more and tires stayed on. If definately pushed better than stock tires and seemed very stable. Will let you know better after this storm.
     
  9. sweetk30

    sweetk30 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,588

    these are it.

    and 5 min up the road from me is the factory were thay are made. http://greendiamondtire.com/
     
  10. elmo1537

    elmo1537 Senior Member
    Messages: 116

    I live in ithaca which is about 45 minutes away from horseheads. Where is it that they manufacture these tires at? Is it parmenters?
     
  11. StuveCorp

    StuveCorp Senior Member
    Messages: 341

    It was a couple years ago but think that's it. I thought they had more truck options? Would love to hear someone that was running some.
     
  12. StuveCorp

    StuveCorp Senior Member
    Messages: 341

    I read on here I think, that someone took Ford 3/4 rims and drilled the holes out just a little and they worked but don't take it as gospel. I never got serious enough to try it, someday.
     
  13. sweetk30

    sweetk30 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,588


    :jester::dizzy::jester: funny you say parmenters. i work at the horseheads repair shop.

    and at 1 time it was kind of paired up with twin tier tire for greendiamond. the president was trying to run both and couldnt cut it i guess. so he sold the greendiamand and now its all its own. and thay are made in the elmira hights plant on grand central.

    thay have been going like crazy and trying to keep up with the demand. but thay need a bigger place and more casings to make tires. and thay have been talking about getting some newer size tire molds for other sizes thay could sell a lot of.
     
  14. zigzag82

    zigzag82 Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    I bought wolf paws at Cat Wagner in Denver for $1300 not studded. The studded ones would be $1500.
    I have a lot of steep driveways and I will be getting studded next year. Can you find out the tire name with carbids in it
     
  15. zigzag82

    zigzag82 Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    Here are some pics of my skidd. The black blade is the new Rylind Blade . I took me 24 days to brake it, 4 plows on flat driveways. There is no backing to the cylinder mount, Just 1/4 inch plate. They are making me one like the yellow one.

    IMG_0948.jpg

    IMG_0949.jpg
     
  16. elmo1537

    elmo1537 Senior Member
    Messages: 116

    what exactly do those pics have to do with green diamond tires?
     
  17. RLM

    RLM PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,270

    Any updates as to how this combo is holding up ?