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All Inclusive+ Hourly over X Amount of inches?

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by Plow man Foster, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. Plow man Foster

    Plow man Foster PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,153

    Anyone do this? Got this guy who wants us to bid on these 2 complexes... Have any of you guys ever done a all inclusive price for the lot, walks, etc. THEN also a hourly rate (To cover your @$$) if you get over lets say 8 inches??

    What do you guys charge hourly per truck. Im thinking like 125 - 200ish
    Each of these site take like 2 trucks....

    Thanks.
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2012
  2. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    So you want to give a per push rate ,then charge more because you couldn't keep up with the plowing?
     
  3. Longae29

    Longae29 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,954

    All inclusive isn't all inclusive if it includes a +
     
  4. Plow man Foster

    Plow man Foster PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,153

    No ones done that before?!?
     
  5. 2FAST4U

    2FAST4U Senior Member
    Messages: 819

    Price your all inclusive's right and you shouldn't need a plus (+)

    An all inclusive is just that, all inclusive you pay me x amount and all your snow and ice will be taken care of from November 15 to April 15 no questions asked.
     
  6. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985

    People that go for all-inclusive want a Set Price......They are Not Looking to be Nickle and Dimed.....:rolleyes:
     
  7. blowerman

    blowerman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,261

    Exactly how I feel.
     
  8. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    I see one guy in this thread that may have a valid point. GV, because he's experienced with lake effect.

    All you others are saying that during the blizzard last year you were able to plow every lot after it met the trigger and kept it right at that trigger? I understand what you're saying, but it isn't reasonable in real life.

    Sorry, but I figure my seasonals for 'normal' snowfalls. A storm like last year that dropped 10-20" can not be plowed in the same amount of time as 2-8" snowfall. And to charge a customer year after year after year for an event that only happens 1 every 5 or 10 years isn't realistic either.

    Then throw in lake effect. Snowing at 1-2" per hour. Trigger is 2" say. 4 hour route. Or 6 hour. You guys are saying that even GV should have enough trucks to plow every account every hour because it meets the 2" trigger even if it only happens once a year? Or once every 2 years?

    I have accounts that take 4-5 hours to plow, with a loader. And when this happens, that loader generally sits on that account. I should have a loader or truck for every single account that takes over 1 hour to plow for these infrequent occurrences?

    That's like saying I should have 1000 tons of salt for that inch of ice we might have. Or might not.
     
  9. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985





    The OP makes No Mention of living in a lake effect Area....So that point is Moot.....


    He is Fishing to see if anyone charges Extra on Top of an all-inclusive....I guess you would say a Blizzard Clause.....Do You have a Blizzard Clause in an All-inclusive Contract???
     
  10. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    I know where he lives, roughly.

    Some of them do. I do whenever I can. I know, seems hypocritical, but I do my best to only use it when necessary and try to make it as reasonable as I can.
     
  11. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985




    Your Name is Not Mil..... Is it........:eek:.....:laughing:
     
  12. TCLA

    TCLA 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,699

    We have a blizzard clause of $xxx.xx per inch for storms over xx" in all of our all inclusives.
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2012
  13. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985





    Nobody asked you to But in.......Go Away...:laughing:
     
  14. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985




    I agree with covering your Rear...................:salute:


    In the last lets say 5 years have you ever induced the "Blizzard Clause"......
     
  15. TCLA

    TCLA 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,699

    Sure did.....:nod:
     
  16. KBTConst

    KBTConst Senior Member
    Messages: 426

    I don't do it myself because none of my customer would go for it but I know of a few company's around here that does it that way in the neighboring towns that are bigger with customers that have more money.
     
  17. ryde307

    ryde307 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,143

    What he is asking works in some places. We dont do that but our seasonal price is covering all plowing and shoveling then all salting is extra per app and per bag for walks. Also hauling relocation pushback anything else is extra. On a year like last we are not going bankrupt because of record snows.