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Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Hawker, Jun 27, 2003.

  1. Hawker

    Hawker Junior Member
    Messages: 3

    Hello all -
    I have to admit that I joined to access your knowledge. I am a homeowner in the country and want to be able to plow a long driveway this winter. I have a Siverado 2500HD 4X4 and need to know what kind of Plow I should buy (Fisher, Myers, etc.) and what are the groups thoughts on tires. I currently have the standard all-season tires.

    Many thanks for your help - Hawker
     
  2. meyer22288

    meyer22288 Senior Member
    Messages: 999

    Welcome to plowsite:waving:

    the plow size for your truck would be 8ft.

    there are a lot of good plows out there today you should look at fisher, western, Boss, and sno-way. All of these snowplows are very reliable and are used by many of us. when you buy your snowplow make sure the dealer you buy it from will support the product and will always have parts in stock.

    good luck with your plow purchase ;)
     
  3. wxmn6

    wxmn6 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,037

    If I were to choose, I would get a Fisher plow. Even though you said you are going to do your own driveway that is long, it still would be worth it. If you are just doing your driveway and no one else (maybe a couple other), a Fisher 7.5' RD straight plow would be good enough. But if you think you could be getting into plowing business, you would be better off buying a Fisher 8' HD straight plow, at least.

    As with the tires, I don't know what your driveway is like. All you said is that your driveway is long, but is it flat or hilly, smooth or rough? In my opinion, if you are just plowing your own driveway, I would not make a big deal about tires. Since you are from Baltimore, you don't get that much snow as other people do. So again, IMO, I would not be concerned about the tires. I think that all season tires will work fine.

    By the way, welcome to Plowsite! :waving:
     
  4. Mike 97 SS

    Mike 97 SS Banned
    from U.S.A.
    Messages: 1,106

    First off, welcome to PlowSite. What year truck do you have? Is it regular cab or extended cab? An extended cab truck with the long bed is a pretty long pick up truck and therefor would need a longer plow to cover the back wheels when plowing and turning at the same time. Obviously, this isnt a concern if you are just doing your own driveway, but most people start off doing their own driveway, then grow from there. What snowplow dealers do you have locally to you? Me personally, I like Western and Fisher snowplows best. Western is a full-trip snowplow and Fisher is a trip-edge snowplow. If you have a Western or Fisher snowplow dealer close to your house, you cant go wrong. Just curious, what size motor do you have in your Chevy? Mike :waving:
     
  5. Hawker

    Hawker Junior Member
    Messages: 3

    Advice - Follow up

    Man, you guys are quick. My driveway is gravel. The truck is a regular cab. The engine is a V8 with about 300HP. Also, I think you are right about growing to do others as well.
     
  6. wxmn6

    wxmn6 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,037

    That is exactly why I said that 7.5' RD plow would be fine for you if you are just doing your own driveway. But like I said, if you have the possibility of doing snowplowing business, you should consider at least 8' HD plow so that way it should be wide enough to cover the rear wheel when making tight turn. If your tire goes over unplowed snow, you have created a hardpack, and that would make it a bit more work to scrap up the snow off pavement.

    If you have some other questions on your mind, give a SEARCH feature a try. There are tons of threads that has been discussed and probably will answer your questions that you may have. The SEARCH feature button is on the top right corner of this site.
     
  7. meyer22288

    meyer22288 Senior Member
    Messages: 999

    Since your driveway is gravel you might want to look into a u-edge for your snowplow. This will help the plow go over the gravel more smooth.

    It sounds like you have a very nice truck and that truck should plow snow with no problem:drinkup:
     
  8. Pelican

    Pelican 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,075

    With a gravel driveway, you might want to consider a full trip blade vs. a trip edge style. These tend to move less gravel, a urethane edge would be nice, but are a bit pricey for a homeowner only blade.

    Western, Meyers, Curtis and Hinicker are examples of full trip blades.

    Fisher, Diamond and Boss are trip edge style blades.

    I would get an 8' blade minimum, the cost difference between it and a 7 1/2' blade is not that great. It will also speed up your plowing and do a neater job.

    I also wouldn't be too concerned about tires for home use unless you have a steep grade to contend with. All seasons should work fine in all but extreme conditions.
     
  9. A.L. Inc.

    A.L. Inc. Member
    Messages: 97

    Don't forget that it is important to buy from a dealer who will provide good service and has a good selection of parts. Getting your plow fixed quickly at 3 a.m. during a storm is priceless. Not as much of a concern as a homeowner doing your own driveway, but good service is always important.
    And welcome to Plowsite:waving: Where else can you find a group talking snow in 90 degree weather???:D
     
  10. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    Lots of good advice so far.Pelican is pretty much right on the full trip plows not snagging in the gravel as much.A U-edge will help too.

    8 to 9 ft is what I'd put on it,prefferably a Western if you have a dealer nearby.

    If you want good traction is the snow,and even on ice,then a dedicated snow tire will help lots.Cooper M&S is a great tire,at a good price,and are properly rated for a full size truck and plow.

    Here's a pic.They don't look real aggressive,but man do they work.

    cooper ms.jpg
     
  11. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    I'll second the Discoverer M&S tires. I put a full set on a 3500 DRW, studded, and they work great. I just think it would be overkill in this case. You could also do a "Search" for threads about tires and get lots of good information on different brands. At the top right of the screen is a "button" titled "Search". Type in what you want to look for and read away.

    Pelican, doesn't the Boss come in both - fulltrip and tripedge?

    If you buy a quality plow and only do your own driveway, dealer support won't be so important as it should be several years before you'll need any repairs. Last winter was the third season and I've had zero problems with the 7.5' Fisher. You might get by with a 7.5 on that 2500 but I'd agree with getting an 8' from the start. If there's a chance of plowing commercially, you want to look into a V-plow or Hinniker C-plow. There's a guy around here who has a 1500 with what looks like a 5' "something" with about a 12" high moldboard. Looks stupid.


    Oops - Sorry Stephen. I'd forgotten you explained the Search feature.
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2003
  12. GeoffD

    GeoffD PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,266

    Go for a 9' blade.

    Geoff
     
  13. meyer22288

    meyer22288 Senior Member
    Messages: 999

    I think a 9ft would be kinda big for just homeowner use. I would say 8ft would be best for his needs. If his driveway is really big then a 9ft would be fine but ill have to say 8ft.
     
  14. Mike 97 SS

    Mike 97 SS Banned
    from U.S.A.
    Messages: 1,106

    I think the 9' blade is too big because the truck in question here is a 3/4 ton SRW Chevy with IFS. The smallest Id put would be 7.5' and the biggest Id put would be an 8.5' on that truck. 7.5' would be fine for just your house, but the bigger the better if you plan on going out and doing some lots or big driveways. Mike
     
  15. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    The 2500 HD will do OK with a 9 ft,and will make it easier if it's a long country driveway.
     
  16. chtucker

    chtucker Senior Member
    Messages: 618

    At least an 8' if not bigger... less chance when you trying to widen the drive up of slipping down the embakement.

    Wxm6 didn't you do that???

    I plead the 5th on how my times I did it.

    Howard
     
  17. Jerre Heyer

    Jerre Heyer Senior Member
    Messages: 948

    Wyldman,

    Ran the Coopers in the pict last year on two trucks. Only ran into a couple of problems with them. The rears on both the F250 and the F350 wore about 60% while the fronts only about 20%. The centers were worse than the outside edges. Ran the fronts at 80psi and the rears at 60psi. Did a contact pressure test and found that the rears should be about 40psi to keep even pressure across the tread. Other than that they were a great tire. I will be cutting the center tread out at every cross to get better center traction on mine but the other truck will run with them stock.

    Definately like the idea of two years of plowing out of one set of tires.

    As for Hawker welcome aboard you'll find lots of info and interesting people here. And for the plow on the truck........Get Wide.

    Jerre
     
  18. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    Jerre - I have used the Coopers two full season's on my truck,and they look like new.I run 80 in the fronts and 50-70 in the rears depending on load.Tires wear nice and even.They haven't even wore 10-15% in two seasons.I am very careful not to spin them when plowing,and they come off when not plowing.Only thing I have noted is a few good size chuncks missing as they are very soft.I'd say I'll get 5-6 years out of them easily.

    My truck is very nose heavy with the Cummins and the 12 ft blade,so 80 PSI is perfect.The rears will be set at 50 empty (just the salter),or about 70 if I have a skid of salt on.
     
  19. chtucker

    chtucker Senior Member
    Messages: 618

    Jerre..

    every set of tires I have run on the Excursion has worn faster on the rears. The Coopers are no exception....

    I blamed it on my wife's right foot.

    By the time I replaced the stockers at 36k miles, I had drag slicks going on.
     
  20. Hawker

    Hawker Junior Member
    Messages: 3

    This is fantastic! The true power of the internet must be the ability for a regular people to access the knowledge of specialists and professionals. Thank you all so much.

    Two more questions: What is a U edge? and Can you use chains on a 4X4?