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Accounting? Taxes?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Caneplow, Feb 13, 2001.

  1. Caneplow

    Caneplow Senior Member
    Messages: 172

    I read an interesting thread on what people are doing for Taxes or tax right offs for their lawn/lanscaping businesses and was wondering how/what you do for your snow removal business? Milage? Your computer? Your garage?
     
  2. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    I tell our subs... if you have three trucks or less, and if you're not 'losing money' on your return - you're doing something wrong......

    (....ok, BRING 'EM ON.... hit me with it... I KNOW this statement will bring out the naysayers and goonslayers... I can handle it..... I'M ready for ya.... BANG AWAY !!!!.....)
     
  3. BRL

    BRL PlowSite.com - Veteran
    Messages: 1,277

    Its the same as every business, all of your expenses should be written off. John, for how long do you recommend a loss? After a few years in a row of claiming losses, the IRS will audit & consider the "business" a "hobby" & I believe all of the rules then change. This is what my accountant told me. Of course if you live in my area you can legitimately pull off a loss in a snowplowing only biz for many years, given our lack of snow for many years at a time.
     
  4. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    I was told 4 years, max.
    I think it was 4 or 5 years for us, in the beginning. Might be why I got audited a few times early on. The last year I lost money was the first year I had a CPA do my returns. After that, it was clear sailing, no audits and turning a profit (albeit a small one, thanks to the accountant).

    Once you get going, you really do need to make a profit. After awhile, and once you use up the legitimate deductions you gotta start turning a profit or you won't survive.

    Hell, I pay more in taxes now than I gross'd the first 5 years and I long for the days of not having to pay any taxes......
     
  5. Majestic

    Majestic Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    TAXES,TAXES,TAXES,drives me crazy.The first couple years in business I thought I was going to go crazy,still think that sometimes.Have a little better understanding now after 10 years.I still think my accountant probably thought I was crazy when Id say are you sure these are correct.940,941,uc2,quarterlys year end reconcilliations,pa3,pa501 Rev 1667(sales tax) Tax my paycheck then tax everything I buy with whats left after taxes.Did I forget any? all yeah 1040,self employment tax Tax me tax me tax me.
     
  6. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    Too much Jolt.
    Ya gotta stop drinkin that stuff when it stops snowin.....
     
  7. Majestic

    Majestic Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    yeah that jolt will do it to you every time.If it would just snow again I wouldnt have as much time on my hands to get all jolted up
     
  8. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    Maj....
    You might get some tomorrow, from what they say up this way.
     
  9. SDF250

    SDF250 Junior Member
    Messages: 16

    jolt yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
     
  10. SDF250

    SDF250 Junior Member
    Messages: 16

    majestic

    i gotcha! first year i think i'm going crazy
     
  11. Caneplow

    Caneplow Senior Member
    Messages: 172

    JOLT.... The breakfast of plowers!