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A-frame swap

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by asphalter1, Feb 19, 2011.

  1. asphalter1

    asphalter1 Junior Member
    from 08527
    Messages: 24

    I have a 6.6 western standard conventional mount plow assembly but need a unimount blade ,my question is can I just swap the a-frame with a uni mount one?
     
  2. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    Western has no "standard conventional" mount so are not providing clear enough information for a good answer. Western has the old uni-mount (with four pins) and the new ultra-mount (with two locking devices). From what you say you have a 6 1/2' straight blade but of what kind? Standard, pro-plow, heavy-weight?
     
  3. asphalter1

    asphalter1 Junior Member
    from 08527
    Messages: 24

    I have a standard blade with 2 pins and have the four pin unimount on the jeep, so what I'm asking is if I can change the a-frame to the unimount (4pin)... Thanks
     
  4. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    Thats a tuff question to answer. A good idea but a tuff question. You would need lots more than the A-frame though if it did fit. You need the light stand, swivel bar, swivel plates, drop stands and so on. And... you say it's on a Jeep? You may find that the Jeep is to light to take any kind of uni-mount. The one I looked at recently would only take the very light suburbanite or HTS. I suggest you go to the Western site and look up your specific Jeep on the quick match and see if there is an ultra-mount that will fit it and then see what plow options it will accept.

    Back to the main question... I would have to say I expect that the answer to your question is no. You probably cannot just switch a-frames but don't know absolutely for sure.
     
  5. JohnnyU

    JohnnyU 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,040

    Huh? :nono:

    Western used to offer the 6.5' S/U (Sport/Utility) plow for just such trucks as Jeeps, Rangers, S-10's and that was a Unimount plow. I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but you may want to go back and verify it before proceeding much further...
    http://library.westernplows.com/westernplows/pdf/63607_101503.pdf
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  6. asphalter1

    asphalter1 Junior Member
    from 08527
    Messages: 24

    i have the 6.5 sport utility set up on the jeep now but the blade is shot... i'm looking to put a 6.6 blade standard on it but need a unimount a frame...
     
  7. Western1

    Western1 Senior Member
    from MI.
    Messages: 674

    Yes you can swap out the a frame from the sport utility to the standard but the standard a frame has to be a unimount not the conventional. you could modify it with the back of the sport utility a frame.
     
  8. twinman326

    twinman326 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,683


    That is so true...I have one sitting in my yard.........The are light enough to do the job for small vehicle like a Chevy blazer for example or a GMC s15
     
  9. asphalter1

    asphalter1 Junior Member
    from 08527
    Messages: 24

    Thank you all for the info....
     
  10. Western1

    Western1 Senior Member
    from MI.
    Messages: 674

    I assumed but shouldn't have,but you would have to use the quadrant from the standard also because the a frame from the sport utility won't bolt up to the standard mold board.
     
  11. road2damascus

    road2damascus PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,829

    I got to jump into this conversation

    I have three 6'6" western plows. One is the Sport Utility UniMount. One is the Standard duty UniMount. One is the Conventional non-UniMount.

    The Sport Utility UniMount has a different mold board, quadrant, angling rams and a-frame from the other two.

    The Standard Duty Unimount shares the same mold board and quadrant with the conventional. The A-frame is different. I believe the angle cylinders/rams are different also.

    The frame that holds the pump and lights is universal for all UniMounts but will NOT fit on a conventional A-frame.

    If you are only hooking up two pins and the pump/light carriage is bolted on the vehicle you probably have a "Conventional" set up. It has a standard duty blade. standard duty quadrant. conventional a-frame. (Quadrant and Moldboard are interchangeable with the Standard Duty Uni Mount NOT the Sport Duty)

    If you want to convert it to a UniMount you will need a UniMount Standard duty A frame (western part number 61891). The whole pump/light carriage, western calls it a lift assembly and can be found at http://parts.westernplows.com/poster.asp you will also need link arms from truck mount to "lift assembly". There are diagrams of all this on the western web site at http://parts.westernplows.com/poster.asp The only thing I am not sure on is the angling rams/cylinders. I do believe they are different. I will know for sure this week as I will be taking it apart.

    I just bought the conventional plow today. My summer plan is turning my Sport Utility UniMount into a Standard Duty UniMount. I am taking the mold board, quadrant, and a-frame off of the Sport Utility and be selling if anyone is interested (its the red plow on my Jeep in my pictures). I will be taking the mold board and quadrant off of the conventional set up, buying a standard duty UniMount A-frame 61891 (if anyone has one for cheap I'd be interested), buy new angling cylinders/rams and using the light/pump carriage off of the sport utility to make a complete plow. I will also take it a step further and have John aka "The Garagekeeper" send it all out to be sandblasted and hot dipped galvanized like my other Standard duty Uni.

    I hope this helps Thumbs Up and doesn't confuse you:dizzy: