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95 Ford 250 Dual Suspension Any Good?

Discussion in 'Ford Trucks' started by Jimbo, Oct 5, 2003.

  1. Jimbo

    Jimbo Junior Member
    Messages: 8

    I have a 95 Ford 250 4x4, and I just got a new Fisher MM2 for it. After I bought the plow, I found out that Fords with dual suspensions are not good for plowing because you can wack out the front end alignment easily. Does any one have any first hand experience or opinions on this? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Highpoint

    Highpoint Senior Member
    Messages: 241

    We had a 96 with the same front end. 460 motor, 9' Meyer. We installed a pair of 3" helper springs in the front end to raise it. This truck mainly pushed snow, got some summer driving. Never had a problem with it. We really liked that ol truck! I'd have another.:)
     
  3. Pelican

    Pelican 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,075

    They're called Twin Traction Beam(TTB) axles, I had one and will never touch another truck that has one. The left side axle housing cracked where the U-bolts wrapped around it, and I just barely made it home before it collapsed. Found out this is a common problem with them.

    At the very least you ought to get some Timbrens under there, won't prevent the cracking but will help to keep the alignment where it's supposed to be.
     
  4. drobson

    drobson Senior Member
    Messages: 112

    Pelican, just had the same problem with my '95 F250. The crack in the case. Didn't realize it was cracked because the U bolt was hiding the crack. Ended up getting it welded, hopefully it will hold, didn't want to shell out to replace it, but might end up doing it if I can find a good used one around.
     
  5. Jimbo

    Jimbo Junior Member
    Messages: 8

    Drobson AND Pelican,

    how many miles were on the truck when they cracked?

    Mine has 81,000, doesn't look like it was ever used for plowing before.

    Hopefully it will hold up for a year or two more.

    Thx.
     
  6. Pelican

    Pelican 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,075

    Mine had about 60,000. I had it welded, but it broke a second time about 2 weeks later. Cross your fingers drobson. I converted the truck to monobeam
     
  7. Jimbo

    Jimbo Junior Member
    Messages: 8

    How costly was it to convert to mononeam?
     
  8. Highpoint

    Highpoint Senior Member
    Messages: 241

    Our truck had 175624 miles exactly when we traded it off. It had engine problems but never had the problem with cracked front end. We had a Traction Loc in the front end. We would have kept it but several events led up to its demise. I recently saw it going down the Hiway. This truck got abused. Maybe it came from a good batch.
     
  9. Waterchikn

    Waterchikn Senior Member
    Messages: 106

    I have the same problem with my 250
    Jimbo, if you do a search on f 250 suspension you will find some
    disscouraging news. I have had no luck with it and soon will replace the truck.
    I have also heard of the same front end on the same truck lasting
    for a long time. Maybe its just the majority of the trucks with the
    major problems and a few might last longer.
     
  10. Pelican

    Pelican 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,075

    Cost me about $2200 total, axle and associated parts. My labor
     
  11. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    Keep a close eye on it.Like mentioned above the cracks may be hidden by the u-bolts for the leaf springs.Check the bolts that go into the driver side of the pumpkin to make sure they are tight.If they come loose it will break pretty quick.

    Get a set of Timbrens as well.

    I would also look at a monobeam conversion if it starts to give you any problems.
     
  12. drobson

    drobson Senior Member
    Messages: 112

    Jimbo, mine had over 160K on it. A lot of hard miles, but I still wouldn't expect that to happen.
     
  13. SCAPEASAURUSREX

    SCAPEASAURUSREX Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 196

    I'm confused why are you guys converting it into a 2WD ??? WHy not get a dana 60 solid axle out of an F350 or 450 to swap in... I have the dana 50 HD front end in my F250 and it eats up ball joints , every year.. 2 more.. ughhh.. and tires, it has a hunger for tires too... One of these days I will convert it to the dana 60 , just dont hve the money right now..
     
  14. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    I think the term Monobeam is referring to a solid front axle,or 4WD,not 2WD.
     
  15. SCAPEASAURUSREX

    SCAPEASAURUSREX Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 196

    Cause isnt a monobeam or I beam a solid beam with just spindles on either end , used in the front end of vans and trucks that are 2wd.. No actual axle shafts in these beams....
     
  16. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    Actually your correct.The Monobeam is used on 2WD.
     
  17. dillyolboy

    dillyolboy Member
    Messages: 97

    My boss had an 86 F250 with the same problem this spring and the the truck is still sitting there (PoS). 170K on it and not a lot of work. Another TTB problem is my sister's 89 F150. The front tires wear real bad on the inside corner. The rest of the tire looks fine. Now she actually wore one down so it doesn't hold air. It has the coil springs with the two shocks set up. The I beams aren't cracked. It is 4wd and the ball joints feel tight. It squeals going around corners at pretty slow speeds. Any ideas?
    Thanks
     
  18. Plow Meister

    Plow Meister PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,174

    Time for a positive

    If I were to choose all over again, I would have opted for the solid axle F-350. Sure, the TTB has its problems, My problems have been more along the line of u-joint replacement every year and uppers and lowers every 3 years. I have not cracked the housing (yet). I love my truck. It does a great gob in the snow. I may not plow as much as the rest of you guys but I have pushed some insane piles with it and have felt confident every snowfall.
     
  19. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    The truck has a bad camber problem.It could be that the springs have sagged,or the traction beams are bent.They are known for bending.You can get alignment sleeves which can correct the problem until they bend some more.The sleeves locate the upper ball joint stud in the knuckle to adjust camber.
     
  20. SCAPEASAURUSREX

    SCAPEASAURUSREX Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 196

    I also think the tire wear problem with the TTB is just inherent to the design of the arc of motion of wheels through the suspensions travel. The wheels move in such a way in travel that the outside of tire has most contact while suspension is travelling down, and vice versa.. Not like with GMs where they have upper and lower a arms or control arms that orient the wheel in a more level fashion... Alignments do help but dont solve the uneven tire wear problem completly. I find myself buying 2 new tires every 2 years which is about 30K miles for me...