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8611 Angle Cylinders

Discussion in 'Blizzard Plows Discussion' started by LuckyPlower, Feb 21, 2016.

  1. LuckyPlower

    LuckyPlower Senior Member
    Messages: 164

    Hey everyone, Looking for some insight on our 8611. When you angle left or right the barrel of the angle cylinders rub on the frame of the plow. The pins that hold the cylinder in place are a little reamed out. The pictures will explain a lot.

    What happened? Is this normal wear and tear for an 8 year old plow? Whats the fix?
    Thanks!

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  2. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,169

    If there is slop that is causing that just remove the pins and add some washers to the end that's rubbing, that would be my quick fix.
     
  3. MIDTOWNPC

    MIDTOWNPC PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,452

    I had this happen and then it pulled the cylinder shaft out of the socket

    I has someone weld a stop on each side of the a frame so it cant hit

    My blade is a little modified as its on a tractor now
     
  4. bliz&hinikerDLR

    bliz&hinikerDLR Senior Member
    Messages: 471

    Obviously the cylinders are riding too high in the pivot beam. The question is why. Possible reasons include:
    Incorrectly built pivot beam - problem would have started right away so not too likely
    Bent angle cyl pins in pivot beam (common) - would not allow cyl to sit in pivot beam properly
    Egged out top pin holes in pivot beam (common) - encourages cylinder to ride up pin when being compressed

    I would suggest the same course of action as Mr. Markus.
     
  5. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,531

    Don't know awhole about the 8611 but it that right?

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  6. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,972

    Yea pat those pins are floating. Nothing wrong with them.

    My thought. Is the center bolt/holes bad?
    How much play do you have in the moldboard?
     
  7. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,531

    That's my thought also, like it's rocking back.
     
  8. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,611

    I was thinking the center pin also, it will allow the push beam to rock some if its worn. Just something to check.
     
  9. bliz&hinikerDLR

    bliz&hinikerDLR Senior Member
    Messages: 471

    Could be pivot beam moving I guess. I would think that most of the time it would be pitching forward not back as would be indicated by the wear on the cylinder.
     
  10. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,169

    Low edge wear would pitch it back...
     
  11. LuckyPlower

    LuckyPlower Senior Member
    Messages: 164

    Thanks, I'll work through the list. I'll check the centre pin for play also. Hopefully it's something straight forward... a few washers like Markus suggested would be a nice way to fix it. Hope to dive into it later today to figure out whats going on.
     
  12. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,868

    I'm not so sure on the cylinder wear, I'll have to check a couple.

    Pin holes wallowing oot is common.
     
  13. scottr

    scottr Senior Member
    Messages: 360

    Build some 1/2" thick washers, weld on top and bottom, weld angle stops top and bottom also.

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  14. scottr

    scottr Senior Member
    Messages: 360

    Top angle stop. If you search, you will find several ways this has been done.

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  15. scottr

    scottr Senior Member
    Messages: 360

    Another one of the washers I installed to keep holes round.

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  16. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,868

    Nice work Scott......looks mulch better than someone's nuts welded on there.
     
  17. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,972

    Yep....Nice work scott
     
  18. scottr

    scottr Senior Member
    Messages: 360

    LOL I hate when someone welds their nuts.:eek:
     
  19. TJS

    TJS PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,342

    Not the same plow but I use 1045 for this and machine up a bushing, bore out what I need and weld the new bushing in.
    Same idea though.
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  20. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,169

    I agree... Scott should open a welding shop over here near TO.