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810 plow smoking

Discussion in 'Blizzard Plows Discussion' started by wls, Nov 28, 2005.

  1. wls

    wls Senior Member
    Messages: 319

    I have a 810 mounted on a 04 3500 dually dodge, I went out and started it up this mornibg, and let it run for 15-20 minutes. When I came back to the truck to shut it off, walking back to the garage I smelled like plastic/wiring burning, I looked and there was smoke coming from under the black plactic cover over the manifold etc. I could'nt really see where it was coming from. Wonder what it could be, I started back up and raised the blade, so I could take to shop, called them the regular plow installer is gone today, said they could have someone else look at it. Any ideas??
     
  2. DaySpring Services

    DaySpring Services PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,065

    Take the cover off and see if anything is melted.
     
  3. SnowGuy73

    SnowGuy73 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,867

    Yeah, that would be the first thing I would do....
     
  4. wls

    wls Senior Member
    Messages: 319

    that was the 1st thing I did, found out it was my fault, left the plow in float position. The coil got alittle warm, it still works but I replaced it and will keep the old one for a spare. $16.75 Lesson learned, leave joystick in nuetral, or shut the power button off. Thanks for the help.:)
     
  5. Jt13speed

    Jt13speed Senior Member
    Messages: 366

    Got any pics of that dodge setup you can post?
     
  6. Crash935

    Crash935 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,377

    You should have the hot feed for the controller to a keyed hot point so that it isnt on unless the key is on.
     
  7. roofsinc

    roofsinc Junior Member
    Messages: 15

    Crash..I need ya'! Come back to Meyer for a sec...
     
  8. wls

    wls Senior Member
    Messages: 319

    The truck was running, and the red light was on, on the joystick.
     
  9. Joe D

    Joe D Senior Member
    Messages: 605

    My plow is in float mode while I am plowing sometimes for a few hours. Never a problem. It should be able to be in float mode forever if need be.
     
  10. wls

    wls Senior Member
    Messages: 319

    wow you must plow a big parking lot:)
     
  11. TRUE TURF LAWN

    TRUE TURF LAWN Senior Member
    Messages: 290

    that will happen.:waving:
     
  12. SnowGuy73

    SnowGuy73 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,867

    Yeah I agree, leaving your plow in float should'nt burn up your coil...:rolleyes:
     
  13. wls

    wls Senior Member
    Messages: 319

    I guess it does, they told me that its putting juice to the solenoid. When mine is in float, the red light is on my joystick. If I pull the joystick back to center, making the red light go off, there should'nt be any power going out to the plow. Maybe some of the blizzard dealers will chim in, and clear this up.:)
     
  14. wls

    wls Senior Member
    Messages: 319

    Here's some pics.

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  15. SnowGuy73

    SnowGuy73 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,867

    If that is true, that is the most retarted thing I've ever heard of. That means if you get out of your truck to shovel, or fuel up you need to shut your plow off. Otherwise it will do damage to your coil. Thats really stupid, what kind of setup is this? :dizzy:
     
  16. wls

    wls Senior Member
    Messages: 319

    I know, I'm just going to make sure my joystick in in the neutral position.
     
  17. johnbelco

    johnbelco Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    810 Smoking

    Could be a short in the harness under the cover. Does'nt sound familiar, and we have not heard of this from any customers.
     
  18. rtm038

    rtm038 Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 231

    It's my understanding that the coil used for the Float/Lower valve (regardless of plow make and model) should be designed for constant "on" usage. However, this has not always been the case. I remember a friend left his Fisher controller (older conventional mount with bigger joystick- not all-cable or smaller one that uses the printed circuit board) in the Float/Lower position and it burned up the coil. Either way, from what I've learned over the years (via the web), some coils are designed for momentary or short duration activation, while others are specifically designed to be energized for indefinite periods of time. Perhaps there was a defect in that particular coil or maybe there is a short somewhere or other wiring defect. Just my .02 cents.

    Ryan
     
  19. Joe D

    Joe D Senior Member
    Messages: 605

    Say your plowing a road, your blade needs to be in float for the cylinder to move freely or the plow will want to raise and lower as the truck goes over the dips and bumps.
    I have had my plow in float for at least 3 hrs before with no problems.
     
  20. Lazer Man

    Lazer Man Senior Member
    from SW Pa.
    Messages: 139

    Joe what he's talking about if I'm correct is holding the joystick in the forward position. I had the same problem, when I was plowing I was holding the joystick forward as if to keep the plow in float. I found out this is not nessesary just hold the joystick forward for a few seconds and let go and the joystick will return to the neutral postion the plow will stay in float until you pull back on the joystick to raise the plow. It does cause the solenoid to overheat if you hold the joystick forward. Hope this sort of answers your ?.

    Bob :D :D :D :salute: