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763 With plow on 2.5 acre site

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Lacymanagement, Nov 5, 2015.

  1. Lacymanagement

    Lacymanagement Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Hello all,
    i have subbed out my skid to a large snow company in the area since i did not have any work for it this winter. I am getting what i think is a fair hourly rate to do a food store locally. This is my first season with this machine and set up and i do not know what kind of production rates this will have. The operator is one of my better guys with a lot of experience in skids. My machine is a bobcat 763 (SINGLE SPEED) with an 8 foot power angle straight blade plow. I do not want to post a picture of the site since it is not my location and i dont know how the company would feel about that. It is about 2.5 acres but very broken up and in the shape of an "L" around the building a lot of cars. A good amount of islands and lights but not any crazy amounts. This would be the the only piece on site for the majority of a storm i told them details of the equipment but they felt comfortable giving me the lot. Just wondering if everyone things it doable? i want to be fair to the contractor as well and i feel like it would take while in a small storm and have no idea how it would preform in a large event. Any ideas? Thank you all!
     
  2. JimMarshall

    JimMarshall Senior Member
    from NW PA
    Messages: 785

    With it sounding like it is a pain to plow with islands and such, with a competent operator I still think you would only be about 3 hours. Never used my skids for plowing but that figure is based off of threads on here.
     
  3. JustJeff

    JustJeff 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,017

    I wouldn't want to do it without a pushbox.
     
  4. Lacymanagement

    Lacymanagement Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Thanks for the advice
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2015
  5. Chineau

    Chineau Senior Member
    Messages: 447

    On a two inch storm closer to four hour I would quote, should be a money maker.
     
  6. JimMarshall

    JimMarshall Senior Member
    from NW PA
    Messages: 785

    What are you basing this calculation off of?
     
  7. Chineau

    Chineau Senior Member
    Messages: 447

    Bum in the seat of skid steers and other stuff pushing lots and you?
     
  8. JimMarshall

    JimMarshall Senior Member
    from NW PA
    Messages: 785

    Math. Ground speed on a 1 speed 763 is 7.0 MPH. If you assume that you lose 65% of your operating time to turning around, Slowing down around islands, etc, that gives you an average ground speed of 2.5 MPH. Now let's assume that due to windrowing, overlap, etc that his 8 foot plow is clearing 3 feet of parking lot per pass. That's 39,600 sq ft/ hour. 2.5 acres * 43,560 sq ft =108,900 sq ft. At 39,600 sq ft/ hour, that's 2.75 hours of plowing.

    My numbers may be off, just guesstimates on efficiency based on 14 years of running skid steers and 11 years plowing snow.
     
  9. brianbrich1

    brianbrich1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,082



    Now that right there is a great breakdown.
     
  10. Chineau

    Chineau Senior Member
    Messages: 447

    You win, was that with two inches of snow?
     
  11. JimMarshall

    JimMarshall Senior Member
    from NW PA
    Messages: 785

    Yes. Like I said, my assumptions on efficiency and clearing width could be off, thats just my guesstimation
     
  12. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,500

    Jim,

    We don't not apply such Math and equations here at the number 1 snow rated website. You my friend have caused enough problem threads this week.

    :) good job!

    Let's round it to 3.15 hours for a two inch event. Figure machine warm up and checking machine.
     
  13. Chineau

    Chineau Senior Member
    Messages: 447

    no travel time against the job? is that out of your pocket? i guess something to consider how is this job paying,Hourly, monthly, per push? back to the op's question yes it is doable with the machine you have.
    while i can't argue with jim's math for the plowing time,by the time.. it is all said and done i think close to four hours per push.
     
  14. jomama45

    jomama45 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,172

    I have a 763 with a 8.5' angle plow (I rarely put the wings on) that I use at our home/shop. I'd have to think that would be the longest 3 hours of my life using it on 2.5 acres.......
     
  15. jhall22guitar

    jhall22guitar PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,044

    Depending on what the buildings hours are (says food store so assuming its not open 24/7) it could be closer to a 4 hour push, if the store is open while you are there. Although parking spots may be taken, you will be dodging idiots in cars, walking, and getting in your way.