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7.3 deisel not getting fuel

Discussion in 'Ford Trucks' started by myron585, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. myron585

    myron585 Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    hello,
    I have a 1998 ford e 350 van with a 7.3 powerstroke engine and its not getting any fuel.
    when I turn the key on the wait to start light does not come on nor does the check engine run it test on start up that light dont come on . heres what I have done.
    I changed the fuel pump because the neg terminal was rotted and I checked and tested the relays and fueses and they all test good. I still have no power to the fuel pump. It will run with ether and die when its gone.i also changed the cam shaft sensor because some said it could be that i dont know how if its not getting fuel anyway I would like help if any of you wonderful people could please help.
    am I testing the wrong relays? is there a fues for the fuel pump under the dash in the panel oris the only one under the hood in the distribution box?
    thanks myron
     
  2. FordFisherman

    FordFisherman PlowSite.com Addict
    from 06611
    Messages: 1,593

    Did you check the #22 maxi fuse under the hood? Don't use ether, it'll blow up.
     
  3. FordFisherman

    FordFisherman PlowSite.com Addict
    from 06611
    Messages: 1,593

    Check that the HPOP reservoir is full.
     
  4. FordFisherman

    FordFisherman PlowSite.com Addict
    from 06611
    Messages: 1,593

    Check the fuel pump shut off switch on either the drivers or passenger side kick panel.
     
  5. FordFisherman

    FordFisherman PlowSite.com Addict
    from 06611
    Messages: 1,593

    Fuse #30 is the fuse for the fuel bowl heater, remove and check it for corrosion or replace if bad.
     
  6. myron585

    myron585 Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    reply

    sorry I forgot to mention I check the emergency shut off and it was good. I dont have a deisel manual I only have the gas version is the fuses for the fuel pump fuse and relays in the same spots? thanks for your help.
    myron585
     
  7. coldcoffee

    coldcoffee Senior Member
    Messages: 776

  8. bskiball

    bskiball Member
    Messages: 64

    I changed my fuel filter once and shorted out the fuel bowl heater which blew a fuse that showed the exact symtoms you desribed. It appears that the fuel bowl heater is on the same fuse as the main computer.
     
  9. myron585

    myron585 Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    were is the fuse I dont have a deisel book only a gas one are the fuses in the same spots?
    thanks myron585
     
  10. bskiball

    bskiball Member
    Messages: 64

    Number 30 for fuel bowl as fordfisherman said. under the dash
     
  11. myron585

    myron585 Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    Thanks for the help ill let you know I'm confused I'm sorry I don't see where fordfisherman said #30 was under the dash? Anyway its all good and I do thank you both for Tue help
     
  12. myron585

    myron585 Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    Ok i found that the number 6 fuse was blown and it keeps popping the fuse anyone know what it controls?
    Thanks
    Myron
     
  13. FordFisherman

    FordFisherman PlowSite.com Addict
    from 06611
    Messages: 1,593

    Section 18-01: Wiring and Circuit Protection 1996 F-150, F-250, F-350, F-Super Duty Chassis Cab, Motorhome Chassis, and Bronco Workshop Manual

    DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION

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    Fuse Junction Panel
    Each vehicle has a fuse panel that contains most of the fuses used in the electrical system.

    Location

    The fuse panels for F-150, F-250, F-350, F-Super Duty Chassis and Bronco are located on the instrument panel behind an access door, left of the steering column. The location of the fuse panel for the Motorhome Stripped Chassis is up to the body builder. The fuse panel for these models is usually located under the instrument panel near the steering column.

    Fuse Panel, F-150, F-250, F-350, F-Super Duty and Bronco





    Item Part Number Description
    1 14401 Wiring Assembly � Main
    2 14401 Fuse Panel
    3 14401 Wiring Assembly � Main
    4 � Fuse (3 Amp) DI Diesel
    5 14526 Circuit Breaker (20 Amp)
    6 14A254 Fuse Panel Bracket
    7 14526 Circuit Breaker (20 Amp)
    8 13350 Turn Signal Flasher Assembly
    9 N803876-S424 Screw


    Content

    The following circuit protection charts give the location and values of all the circuits containing fuses or circuit breakers.

    Fuse Panel, F-Series and Bronco






    Fuse Protection Amps Circuits Protected
    1 30 Heater/A/C Blower
    2 30 Wiper/Washer
    3 3A Idle Switch (Diesel Only)
    4 15 Warning Buzzer/Chime Module, Exterior Lamps, Instrument Illumination, Trailer Exterior Lamp Relay
    5 10 Air Bag Restraint
    6 15 A/C Clutch, Diesel Aux. Fuel Selector a, Remote Keyless Entry
    7 15 Turn Lamps, Rear Window Defrost a
    8 15 Courtesy/Dome/Cargo Lamps, Electric Outside Mirrors, Speedometer Memory, Warning Buzzer/Chime Module, Overhead Console (Bronco) Sun Visor Illumination (Bronco)
    9 25 Power Point
    10 4 Instrument Illumination
    11 15 Radio, Radio Display Dim
    12 20 C.B. Power Door Locks, Electronic Shift Motor 4WD, Power Lumbar, Tailgate Power Window, Key Switch a, Power Driver Seat (SuperCab Only)
    13 15 Stop/Hazard Lamps, Anti-Lock Brake Module Memory Power (F-Series Only), Speed Control, Stop Sense for: Powertrain Control, Anti-Lock Brakes, Automatic Transmission Shift Interlock
    14 20 C.B. Power Windows, Tailgate Power Window, Instrument Panel Switch a
    15 20 Anti-Lock Brakes (F-Series Only)
    16 15 Cigar Lighter, Data Link Connector
    17 10 Warning Buzzer/Chime Module, Warning Indicators, Diesel Indicators a, Gauges, Tachometer, Transmission Control Switch
    18 10 Electronic Shift Module 4WD, Speedometer, Air Bag Restraint, Automatic Transmission Shift Interlock, Automatic Day/Night Mirror Overhead Console (Bronco), APCM (Diesel)


    a Indicates Diesel or Bronco functions only.


    Fuse Panel, F-Super Duty Motorhome Chassis






    Fuse Position Amps Circuits Protected
    1 � Not Used
    2 30 Windshield Wiper/Washer, Internal Wiper/Washer
    3 � Not Used
    4 15A Instrument Panel Warning Lamps, PSOM, Warning Chime
    5 20A PSOM, Marker Lamps, Instrument Panel Lights Main Light Switch
    6 10A Body Builder Accessory Feed (Accessory and Run)
    7 15A Daytime Running Lamps, Turn Signal Lamp, Overdrive Cancel Switch, Brake Shift Interlock
    8 15A Body Builder Accessory Feed (Run Only)
    9 15 Hazard Lamps, Stoplamps, Brake Pressure Switch
    10 � Not Used
    11 � Not Used
    12 � Not Used
    13 5A Instrument Panel Illumination
    14 5A Radio Feed
    15 � Not Used
    16 � Not Used
    17 � Not Used
    18 � Not Used


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  14. FordFisherman

    FordFisherman PlowSite.com Addict
    from 06611
    Messages: 1,593

    Section 18-01: Wiring and Circuit Protection 1996 F-150, F-250, F-350, F-Super Duty Chassis Cab, Motorhome Chassis, and Bronco Workshop Manual

    DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION

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    Power Distribution Box
    Location

    F-Series and Bronco vehicles are equipped with a power distribution box located in the engine compartment on the left-hand fender apron.

    Content



    F-Series Power Distribution Box, Diesel Engine Only






    Fuse Position Amps Circuits Protected
    1 20 Radio
    2 15 Ambulance (Diesel 215 Amp Generator/Voltage Regulator Only)
    3 30 Horn Relay, Daytime Running Lamps (DRL), Headlamp Flash-To-Pass
    4 25 Trailer Marker Lamps Relay, Trailer Backup Lamps Relay
    5 15 Backup Lamps, Daytime Running Lamps (DRL), Trailer Battery Charge Relay
    6 10 Trailer Right Stop/Turn Lamps
    7 10 Trailer Left Stop/Turn Lamps



    Maxi-Fuse Position Amps Circuits Protected
    8 30 Injector Driver Module (IDM) Power
    9 30 Powertrain Control Module (PCM), PCM Power Relay, Electronic Transmission Control, Injector Pressure Regulator, Injector Driver Module
    10 20 See Fuses 15 and 18 (IP Fuse Panel), Starter Relay
    11 � Not Used
    12 20 Diode Current Flows from Fuse 22 to PCM Power Relay
    13 50 See Fuses 5, 9 and 13 (IP Fuse Panel)
    14 � Not Used
    15 50 See Fuses 1 and 7 (IP Fuse Panel) and Fuse 5
    16 � Not Used
    17 50 Generator Charge Indicator, Instrument Cluster. See Fuses 2, 3, 6, 11 and 17 (IP Fuse Panel) and Maxi-Fuse 22. Also See Circuit Breaker 12.
    18 30 Trailer Battery Charge Relay
    19 40 Main Light Switch, Headlamps
    20 50 See Fuses 4, 8 and 16 (IP Fuse Panel). Also See Circuit Breaker 12.
    21 30 Trailer Electronic Brake Control Unit
    22 20 Fuel Line Heater, 215 Amp Generator/Voltage Regulator, PCM Power Relay Coil, Glow Plug Controller
    Relay 1 Relay Powertrain Control System
    Relay 2 Relay Injector Driver Module (IDM) Relay
    Relay 3 Relay Horn
    Relay 4 Relay Trailer Tow or Dual Rear Wheel Running Lamps
    Relay 5 � Not Used



    F-Series Power Distribution Box, Gasoline Engine Vehicles Only






    Fuse Position Amps Circuits Protected
    1 20 Radio
    2 � Not Used
    3 30 Horn Relay, Daytime Running Lamps (DRL), Headlamp Flash-to-Pass
    4 25 Trailer Marker Lamps, Trailer Backup Lamps Relay
    5 15 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S), Backup Lamps, Trailer Battery Charge Relay, Daytime Running Lamps (DRL), Speed Control
    6 10 Trailer Right Stop/Turn Lamps
    7 10 Trailer Left Stop/Turn Lamps



    Maxi-Fuse Position Amps Circuits Protected
    8 � Not Used
    9 30 PCM Power Relay, Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
    10 20 See Fuses 15 and 18 (IP Fuse Panel), Starter Relay
    11 � Not Used
    12 Diode 20 Diode Current Flows from Fuse 22 to PCM Power Relay
    13 50 See Fuses 5, 9, and 13 (IP Fuse Panel)
    14 � Not Used
    15 50 See Fuses 1 and 7 (IP Fuse Panel) and Fuse 5 (Power Distribution Box)
    16 20 Fuel Pump Relay
    17 50 Generator Charge Indicator, Instrument Cluster, See Fuses 2, 6, 11, 17 (IP Fuse Panel) and Maxi-Fuse 2. Also See Circuit Breaker 14.
    18 30 Trailer Battery Charge Relay
    19 40 Main Light Switch, Headlamps
    20 50 See Fuses 4, 8 and 16 (IP Fuse Panel). Also See Circuit Breaker 12.
    21 30 Trailer Electronic Brake Control Unit
    22 20 Ignition System, PCM Power Relay Coil
    Relay 1 Relay PCM Power Relay
    Relay 2 Relay Fuel Pump Relay
    Relay 3 Relay Horn Relay
    Relay 4 Relay Trailer Marker Lamps Relay
    Relay 5 Relay WOT Relay (4.9 California Only)



    Bronco Power Distribution Box






    Fuse Position Amps Circuits Protected
    1 20 Radio
    2 30 4WABS Relay No. 1
    3 30 Horn Relay, Daytime Running Lamps (DRL), Multi-Function Switch, Speed Control
    4 25 Trailer Marker Lamps Relay, Trailer Backup Lamps Relay
    5 15 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S), Backup Lamps, 4WABS, Trailer Battery Charge Relay, Daytime Running Lamps (DRL), Speed Control
    6 10 Trailer Right Stop/Turn Lamps
    7 10 Trailer Left Stop/Turn Lamps



    Maxi-Fuse Position Amps Circuits Protected
    8 30 4 WABS Relay No. 2
    9 30 PCM Power Relay, Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
    10 20 See Fuse 18 (IP Fuse Panel), Starter Relay
    11 � Not Used
    12 (Diode) 20 Ignition System, PCM Power Relay Coil
    13 50 See Fuses 5, 9 and 13 (IP Fuse Panel)
    14 30 Rear Window Defrost
    15 50 See Fuses 1 and 7 (IP Fuse Panel) and Fuse 5
    16 20 Fuel Pump Relay
    17 50 See Fuses 2, 6, 11 and 17, Maxi-Fuse 22 and Circuit Breaker 14
    18 30 Trailer Battery Charge Relay
    19 40 Main Light Switch, Headlamps
    20 50 See Fuses 4, 8 and 16 (IP Fuse Panel). Also See Circuit Breaker 12.
    21 30 Trailer Electronic Brake Control Unit
    22 20 Diode Current Flows from Fuse 22 to PCM Power Relay
    Relay 1 Relay PCM Power Relay
    Relay 2 Relay Fuel Pump Relay
    Relay 3 Relay Horn Relay
    Relay 4 Relay Trailer Marker Lamps Relay
    Relay 5 Relay 4WABS Relay No. 2



    F-Super Duty Motorhome Power Distribution Box






    Fuse Position Amps Circuits Protected
    1 15 Cigar Lighter
    2 20 Headlamp Flash-to-Pass, Daytime Running Lamps (DRL) Module
    3 20 Horn Relay, Speed Control
    4 20 Body Builders Battery Accessory Feed
    5 15 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S), Backup Lamps, Blower Motor Relay
    6 10 Speed Control (Main Power to Module)
    7 � Not Used
    8 � Not Used



    Maxi-Fuse Position Amps Circuits Protected
    9 � Not Used
    10 � Not Used
    11 20 Transmission Range Sensor, Starter Motor Relay, Ignition Control Module
    12 Diode PCM Relay
    13 30 PCM Relay, Fuel Pump Relay, E4OD Transmission, Engine Controls
    14 60 Ignition Switch
    15 � Not Used
    16 50 Blower Motor Relay
    17 60 Headlamps, Main Light Switch, PSOM, Exterior Lamps, Interior Lamps
    18 20 Fuel Pump Relay, Fuel Sender
    19 � Not Used
    20 � Not Used
    21 � Not Used
    22 20 Ignition Control Module, Ignition Coil, Distributor, Radio Capacitor, PCM Relay Coil
    Relay 1 Relay PCM Power Relay
    Relay 2 Relay Fuel Pump Relay
    Relay 3 Relay Horn Relay
    Relay 4 Relay Blower Motor Relay
    Relay 5 � Not Used


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  15. kingriver

    kingriver Senior Member
    from alaska
    Messages: 217

    2000F350 Superduty Lariat4x4 CC Shortbox

    Hello, does anyone out there plow with this specific year and size of truck?
    We are considering placing a Western Pro Plus 7'6" -w- wings. It isn't much longer than the newer Reg Cab flatbeds- either Ford or GMC. Overall length is 20' give or take an inch.