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30,000 sq. ft. lot with 3500 sq. ft. of walkways and stairs

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by fartbox333, Oct 21, 2014.

  1. fartbox333

    fartbox333 Member
    Messages: 40

    Hi all. Looking for some per push and seasonal pricing help on an appartment building in Lowell MA. Owner wants sand not salt in lot with shoveling areas treated with ice melt. Might try and talk them into a sand salt mix. I have a f350 with a 8.5 v, a f350 6 wheel dump with a 2 yd. sander and a 9 ft. plow, and a bobcat at my disposal. Been subbing for a while and looking to go back out on my own. Still looking to add more lots but this is the only one looking for numbers right now. Average snow 60 inches. Shoveling and plowing seperate. Shoveling seperate too. Any thoughts? Thanks.
     
  2. fartbox333

    fartbox333 Member
    Messages: 40

    Plowing sanding and shoveling seperate. Oops.
     
  3. AccuCon

    AccuCon Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 440

    You got an aerial picture of the lot????

    If not I'd go with One Milllllllllllllllllllion dollars ;)
     
  4. fartbox333

    fartbox333 Member
    Messages: 40

    I don't. Pretty straight forward. 150x200. Decent room for snow. Removal extra.
     
  5. Sawboy

    Sawboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,591

    What do YOU think? Let's see your prices first for comparison.
     
  6. fartbox333

    fartbox333 Member
    Messages: 40

    Haven't had time to figure it out yet. Thought I'd pick some brains first.
     
  7. Sawboy

    Sawboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,591

    Do we get a cut of the fee for doing the work?
     
  8. AccuCon

    AccuCon Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 440

    By per push you mean like every 2" or do you really mean per event?

    Every 2" I'd be $150-200
     
  9. fartbox333

    fartbox333 Member
    Messages: 40

    That sounds fair. Prob make a couple of trips per storm at like an hour each. There's supposed to be a system after the storm where the cars move so I can cleanup the spaces when the storm is over. Never seems to work out 100% but you snooze you lose. I got an idea where I want to be for shoveling per hr. Anyone got a system for figuring how many ice melt bags to use?
     
  10. AccuCon

    AccuCon Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 440

    There are charts online for product, temperature, and application amount per X unit of measurement...Find using Google...

    Extrapolate an average and calculate per square foot

    Quick Searches

    http://www.robinsonsaltsupply.com/applchart.html

    and

    http://www.pca.state.mn.us/index.php/view-document.html?gid=5491

    Go to page 35 of the manual or page 42 of the pdf and you will find lbs for 1000 SqFT

    As you can see there is a lot of variation Dry salt (Plain old NaCl) in applications guides ranges from 3-8 lbs per 1000 SqFT in 15-20F

    ~edit
    Another PDF
    http://www.drscw.org/chlorides/PLsarg.pdf
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2014
  11. fartbox333

    fartbox333 Member
    Messages: 40

    Wow. Lots of info. Thanks.