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2014 Tundra Fisher 7'6" vs. 8' HD2 - Set me straight.

Discussion in 'Toyota Trucks' started by RandomMOJO, Nov 13, 2015.

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  1. RandomMOJO

    RandomMOJO Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    Alright loyal Tundra folks here's the story.

    I just got a 2014 Tundra DC limited. Was a Chevy guy for a while and I've been in a Wrangler unlimited for the last 3 years and NEEDED a truck again. One reason is to plow my and my family's driveways

    So I have a pair of Bilstein 6112 for the front, like the 5100 with adjustment but comes with 650 pound coils and enormous 61mm shocks. Planning on getting 2.5" in the front. I also will be putting 5100's in the rear and I have already had an add-a-leaf added. Timbrens are also sitting in my kitchen waiting to go on.

    I'm a Fisher guy, and I know the tundra is a 1/2 ton. I'm pretty well set on a new Fisher HD2. I'm confident the Tundra can handle the weight, especially with the suspension upgrades, Timbrens, and ballast.

    Here's the question. I thought I wanted the 7'6" HD2 but I'm worried about running over my rows too much. I also don't think the 7'6" has as much resale as the 8'. The difference in weight is 50 pounds and the 8' comes standard with a 1/2" cutting edge where the 7'6" comes with a 3/8" cutting edge.

    Which do I get? I'm truly torn and need some advice
     
  2. JustJeff

    JustJeff 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,018

    Go with the 8'. You'll be fine.
     
  3. RandomMOJO

    RandomMOJO Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    Good to know. I want a bit more info though.

    I know it's a ton to ask, but I would really like to talk to some people with plows on their Tundra on the phone. I want to pull the trigger on a plow tomorrow or Thursday. Anyone willing to send me their telephone number in a private message? I'm sure it would only be a 5 minute conversation.

    Really I'm looking for the benefits of having an 8' over a 7'6". We all want 6 extra inches but let's be real is it worth it for $200 and 50lbs? If I'm going to get the 7'6" why wouldn't I just get the SD and save some coin. Again I'm not plowing commercially. Just need some advice
     
  4. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,462

    There telling you to get the 8footer becuse of its benifets.
    Like clearing a wide enough path when swung to the side ....
    You don't want the snow to dump back under your tires.
    Nor do you want to drive in the windrow when you turn just a little.

    As you say it's just a littel wider and just a littel more weight.
    But so is a 7footer over 6 footer and a 9 footer over a 8 footer.
    .

    You have a full size truck, not only is it wide, it's long.

    Sorry, no data mining.

    Good luck
    And why does this decision have to be made today?
     
  5. RandomMOJO

    RandomMOJO Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    That's why I'm asking. I don't truly know if I'd be happy with the 7'6". But not being a commercial plow guy, do I suck it up and take more passes, or do I get the biggest baddest plow I think I can fit?

    I work long stretches of night shifts and am about to come on to a stretch. Plow is getting installed next Wednesday, and I need to be able to pick it up. The 8' is 20 minutes from the house but the 7'6" is more like 1.5 hours one way.

    Thanks for the input
     
  6. coke813

    coke813 Member
    Messages: 88

    Just my 2 cents- if you are only doing residential driveways, you can easily get by with a 7'-6" blade. Unless you are routinely plowing over 12" deep storms, you really don't need to worry about the snow falling back under your tires that much. The only time your windrow gets so huge that it falls back into your tracks is when you are clearing a huge wide open area (parking lot). As for driving over the snow with your back wheel when you turn corners- yes, you do a little bit, so if your driveway is all tight curves, that may matter for you. Mine is pretty much straight, so it doesn't even cause a problem.
    I have been doing my own 300' gravel driveway for a few years, and I also previously did 2 really long rural driveways. I don't think that extra 6" of blade would have made any difference for me. The commercial guys with big trucks always want the biggest plow because over the course of a 12 hour snow event it may save them an hour or two. If you are only doing two driveways, I don't think you would notice the difference. For me, I'd rather save the wear and tear on the truck and get the smaller blade that will do the job.

    Why are you worried about the resale? If you aren't planning on keeping the plow then why do you want to buy a new one?

    again, just my opinion. If you want to go with the bigger blade, that's your choice.
     
  7. RandomMOJO

    RandomMOJO Junior Member
    Messages: 11


    Thanks for some experience... Do you have a 7'6" HD or SD? Plowing with a Tundra?

    I'm not truly worried about resale, it just seems as though it's not as a desirable plow as the 8'. If I did ever want to unload the 7'6", it might be a bit harder. That just my thought anyhow.
     
  8. coke813

    coke813 Member
    Messages: 88

    I now drive a 2015 Chevy 1500 with a western HTS 7'-6". First year with the new truck, I previously had a '98 chevy with an older unimount Western.

    Fisher and Western are both made by Douglas Dynamics, so my blade is just like the Fisher HT. I don't think you really have any need for a HD model on your half-ton, it would be like trying to pull a gooseneck trailer with it. If you need to do that, you need a bigger truck. Again, if you are only doing a couple driveways, that's one thing. If you're looking to get into commercial, then the bigger heavier blade would be worth it.
     
  9. RandomMOJO

    RandomMOJO Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    Valid points... I'm leaning towards the HD because I have only ever plowed with heavy plows. Light plows just don't seem worth it to me. Heavy snow, heavy plow. Need too scrape, heavy plow. It just seems like they work better. Just my experience with plowing.

    With great weight comes great power. Or is that not how the saying goes?
     
  10. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,462

    Ok do you like getting stuck in your own drive?
    When you drive in the windrow you run the risk.

    The wider plow gives you a wider path this comes into play more when you need to windrow the banks back. You'll get s u c ked into the bank with a narrow plow....

    Next wear your truck is rated for it and when you don't need the plow, you take it off. Use counter weight, this takes weight off of the front axel helping to blance out your truck but it also reduces wear.
    Don't drive like a madman with the plow on,
    Don't play cool hand Luke and leave the plow on all winter.
    And think of the wear from getting stuck,
    Spinning tires , skyrocketing tranny temps, getting out and shoveling , all for what , a " smaller plow"

    I had a 7.5 plow,,on a full size truck ,I carried a snowblower along just to dig myself out.
    It worked better on a jeep YJ....





    And if you have never seen f150 pulling 5thwheels & gooseneck horse trailers
    You haven't been out on the interstate lately.
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2015
  11. coke813

    coke813 Member
    Messages: 88

    haha, True, I have seen it, but a single horse trailer is a little different than a skid steer on a flat bed. I think my truck is only rated for 9,000 pounds and I wouldn't choose to pull one with mine.

    all I'm saying is I can plow my driveway with no problems with my plow, never gotten stuck or sucked into the side. I also have no problem scraping it clean because I don't have traffic packing it down before I plow.
    Of course a bigger plow can make the task easier, if you want to shell out more money, there's nothing stopping you.
     
  12. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,462

    It's an investment that should out last the truck.

    Ok go get your tape mesure and mesure the with of the truck.
    Wheel to wheel and widest body panel to the other side.
    Use a beer cans to mark the measurements on the ground.
    Step back and take a look.
    Is 7.5 really wide enough?

    Why the body becuse your body panel ,running boards, will be in the windrow With the 7.5
    Rember a 7.5 is narrower when swung to the side.

    Just a life time of experience.
    Get the 8.5 you have a full size truck.
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2015
  13. GMCHD plower

    GMCHD plower PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,819

    Try to get ahold of Mercer_Me on here, he has an 8' on his tundra and loves it.
     
  14. RandomMOJO

    RandomMOJO Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    Working on it!
     
  15. coke813

    coke813 Member
    Messages: 88

    SnoFarmer, Its seems like you're arguing with me. I don't want to aggravate you but I just want to make one point and then I'll bow out of this discussion.

    There is a huge difference in windrow size when doing a parking lot- where you may build up a 3' + high wall of snow that rubs on the side of your truck. But this poster is talking about doing driveways only. I don't know if your driveway is as wide as a freeway or what, but in my one lane drive, I can clear it with 2 passes down and back and I'm clearing 4-5 feet onto the grass on either side. I drive at a speed that throws the snow out to the side and it doesn't stack straight up along the edge. I've done this same method on mine and two other driveways with no issues. Maybe the one big blizzard of the year, I have to make an extra pass to clear it all. I guess I've just learned to make my plow work for me. Nothing is stopping anybody from buying anything bigger. All I'm saying is I'm happy with mine, it sure beats snowblowing.

    My wife is from MN, I'll have to ask her where Poop Scoop is. Have a good winter.
     
  16. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,462

    Naw, my dry humor and sarcasm don't always come across well in print.
    Post away, show how it works for you,
    But be honest, we all get stuck, sometimes in our own drive.

    Poop scoop,Duluth....
    Satirized for your protection,
    If you don't pick it up it will end up in the lake.:dizzy:

    I can work a plow or blade;) trust me.....

    Ever hear of drifting snow or Snow so deep you can't throw it up and over any longer?
    Wear and tear....:mechanic:
    And that's just on my 400ft drive
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2015
  17. mercer_me

    mercer_me PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,361

    I have a regular 8' HD on my Tundra and the truck handles it with out a problem. The HD2 doesn't weigh much more then the HD so, there is no issue there. I know 3" on each side doesn't sound like much but, it makes a HUGE difference. I have a "S curve" in my driveway and when I had a 7.5' the snow would rub against the truck and go under the truck and I got stuck a couple times. With the 8' I don't have any issues. Go with the 8' HD2, it's worth the extra money.
     
  18. RandomMOJO

    RandomMOJO Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    So with the Bilstein 6112/5100 setup and some Timbrens 8' should be good? I know there will be inevitable preventative maintenance, but if I don't beat the hell out of it, is the plow going to beat the hell out of it?

    What are people running for ballast with 760 lbs plow setup. Also what are you using? Loose sand, tube sand, metal? I'm not using cinder blocks for safety reasons. I would love to get a sander, but it's not in the cards.
     
  19. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,940

    Timbrens, shocks if you want
    Can't forsee what a plow will or won't do to your truck.
    What does fishers website recommend for ballest?
    Never loose "sand, dirt, etc.." tube sand will be fine.

    You sure you wanna ad a salter?
     
  20. RandomMOJO

    RandomMOJO Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    Timbrens and new suspension(coils/ leaf springs, shocks) all around. The rears are already done, fronts next week with plow install.

    Wishful thinking on predicting the future of repairs.

    Tubes or Homemade ballast box determined before before real snow. I'll check the fisher website.

    If I was ever to add any type of broadcast spreader it would be a small tailgate spreader.

    Any other suggestions?