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2013 Ram Diesel / DEF

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by Fourbycb, Jun 19, 2013.

  1. Fourbycb

    Fourbycb Senior Member
    Messages: 574

    Just wondering if anyone has gotten a newer Dodge with the Cummins that requires the DEF products. How much time / mileage / cost / overall Pro's Con's to the DEF system on the Pickups thus far. How many miles can you get to a full tank of DEF, How does it affect your Snow Plowing
  2. thelettuceman

    thelettuceman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,216

    I have a 2011 Ford F250 with 6.7 PowerStroke. I use about 1.25 gallons every 5000 miles. Not saying this will be the same as a 2013 Ram.
  3. gallihersnow

    gallihersnow Senior Member
    Messages: 305

    From what I've heard, every time you change your oil you should fill up the DEF tank.
  4. Grassman09

    Grassman09 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,806

    My Ford would be going into limp mode if that was the case. I cant make it to a oil change. Not sure what the fine line is. If you baby it you prob use just as much as if you work it. :confused:
  5. schrader

    schrader PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,213

    Realy I only use half a tank between changes, I think in town running around uses less than highway or long distance travel.
  6. Fourbycb

    Fourbycb Senior Member
    Messages: 574

    If its like the OTR semi's the more over the road miles ran the less DEF used. If running longer distances like 60 miles at 60 mph consistance suppose to use less DEF . I just wasent sure if the same rule applies for the pickups
  7. Fourbycb

    Fourbycb Senior Member
    Messages: 574

    Just talked to a person who has a newer Dodge with the DEF tank he told me he has gone thru 3 tank fulls of DEF in 6000 miles driving mostly locally. He told me it's a Pain in the Ass to pay $3.00 a gal for DEF and $3.75 a gal for Diesel Fuel. So I think I may shy away for the purchase of a newer Ram
  8. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,394

    on my last ford 6.7, I had used one tank full in 42,000 miles before i had to refill
  9. JustJeff

    JustJeff PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,935

    I just got a new '13 Ram diesel. The DEF has it's own gauge in the lower left hand corner of the gauge cluster. I've only run about one full tank of fuel through the truck so that's not saying much. But when I picked it up the DEF gauge read "full", and it's now still above the 3/4 mark. My dealer didn't even know what DEF was, so I read the owner's manual and went to Auto Zone and picked up 2-1/2 gallons for about 15 bucks. I know it's an additional cost, but it's pretty minimal so I'm not overly concerned/pissed off about having to do it. Not a big deal.
  10. Big Dog D

    Big Dog D PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,134

    I am in the same boat as you. I used about 4.5 gallons in the first 6k miles +/-. I have the tendency to let mine idle a lot do you? I was thinking it would possibly consume more the more it was allowed to idle.
  11. Grassman09

    Grassman09 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,806

    No not too much idleing. Maybe it's just the heavy towing or city traffic. Winter for sure it idles allot more. For a wile I was leaking def fluid. Needed a new heater and I guess the seal got buggered so they ended up replacing the tank and pump as all the wireing was corded from the leak.

    To the poster who says he has used only one tank of def in 42000 miles I think you have one too many zeros there. I have close to that on my truck and I've lost count how much I've used.

    DAFFMOBILEWASH PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,581

    From what I have gathered the fuel mileage of the 2013 6.7 has increased due to addition of the def fluid vs the 2012. I have been on the fence on letting the 06 go and replacing it with a 2013 but hate the emission crap of the newer trucks.
  13. LwnmwrMan22

    LwnmwrMan22 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 27,862

    I'd bet the better mileage is due to the fact they're running 3.42 rear ends in alot of the diesels as well.

    I just bought a new 2013 Hemi.

    I started switching over last year when I bought a 2012 Hemi.

    Right now I own an '06 Ram 5.9 CTD, an '11 Ram CTD, a '12 Hemi and now a '13 Hemi. The Hemi's get about 2-3 miles per gallon less pulling 24' trailers than the '11 CTD.

    Our gas prices are around .30 / gallon cheaper than diesel here, so it'll be about 120,000 miles before I save the cost of the CTD engine.

    Plus, a Hemi you can put a lifetime bumper to bumper warranty on the truck for about $3,000.

    CTD trucks can only run a 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty.
  14. tmlawncare

    tmlawncare Member
    Messages: 35

    We have a 2013 Ram 2500 crewcab cummins. We have 3800 miles on it so far. Highway driving at 70mph 19-21mpg. Mixed driving 17-18mpg. Towing 13-15mpg. DEF usage we still have over 1/4 tank left. The truck has a turbo boost indicator on the instrument cluster. If you can keep your foot a little light and keep the boost way down the truck gets amazing mpg. Watch the youtube video of the guy in the 2500 driving 65-68 getting 26mpg+. On a 250 mile trip averaging 70mph using this technique we averaged 22.3mpg for the whole trip and part of the trip was in the hills near lake of the ozarks.
  15. outdoorimagesct

    outdoorimagesct Junior Member
    Messages: 24

    I have a 2012 3500 CTD, a 2012 2500 hemi, and a 2013 5500 CTD when love every single one of them. The power on the CTD is insane and can coast down the highway passing cars at 70mph towing a 10k lbs trailer. From the power to the ride to the comfort I love everything.
    One BIG issue I had with my 5500. The turbo was replaced at 6k miles for being faulty. Now back to an amazing truck. So all in all I would say I'm winning.
  16. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,394

    DPF comes of and goes in to storage.

    Here is MY 13.



    Plus another 200HP added.


  17. outdoorimagesct

    outdoorimagesct Junior Member
    Messages: 24

    I am curious to know how yours run without? Can it be detrimental ?
  18. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,394

    How it runs without? Like a bat out hell.

    Detrimental, yes without proper tuning. In order to remobe, the ecm needs to be reprogrammed and the warranty goes out the window.
  19. QuadRacer041

    QuadRacer041 Senior Member
    Messages: 140

    I have a 2013 with about 3400 miles. The def holds about 5 gals and has its own gauge. At a local auto parts store def costs about $15 for a 2.5 gal jug. In the 3400 miles have have gone through about full tank of def. the reason I say about is because I filled the first time with still have a half tank left. I am currently slightly less the half a tank now. So to correct myself, I've used a little more then a full 5 gallon tank of def in 3,400 miles.
  20. cl733

    cl733 Senior Member
    from Canada
    Messages: 252

    Interesting, I have an 08 6.7 , its still on warranty until nov 2014, I have a tuner already as I plan on ditching the DPF the minute its off warranty,but I too was wondering if a person could use something like EFI live to just just alter parameters in the ecm .