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2011 Chevy P-up frame design

Discussion in 'Chevy Trucks' started by sabres07, Feb 16, 2011.

  1. sabres07

    sabres07 Senior Member
    from buffalo
    Messages: 110

    I know that the 2011 Chevy 2500HD frames are boxed, but I was wondering if they did the same with the 1500 frames??? I am on the fence between a 2500HD and a 1500. I like the idea of a fully boxed frame to avoid those cracked frame issues that have cropped up.
     
  2. tuney443

    tuney443 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,847

    The 1500 frame is not boxed.Same as previous years.If you're a serious plower, you should have at least a 3/4 ton anyway.
     
  3. pottstim

    pottstim Member
    Messages: 43

    The frame on the new 1500 series trucks is boxed from the front to the back. I've got a 2010 1500 4x4 sitting out in my driveway, and it's fully boxed and much more rigid than the '04 that I had before it that was not fully boxed. You must be thinking about the
    99-06 1500 trucks.
     
  4. Newdude

    Newdude Senior Member
    Messages: 878

    x2.

    07+ are boxed.
     
  5. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,169

    My 07 3500 isn't boxed, I'm pretty sure it's a 2011 upgrade in design.
     
  6. BigLou80

    BigLou80 Senior Member
    Messages: 558

    If you want a serious work truck get a 2500HD, if you want to go to the home despot on the weekend and occasionally tow a camper and plow your own driveway get a 1500.

    After owning a 2500HD I couldn't imagine trying to get by with a half ton truck, but I own a truck to work, and that's exactly what I do with it.

    I went across the scales at 18,500 GVW last Friday at the landfill the truck weighs maybe 6500 -7000 LBS try that with a half ton an let me know what breaks
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2011
  7. pottstim

    pottstim Member
    Messages: 43

    2500 and 3500 series truck frames did not become fully boxed until the 2011 model year. They were only boxed from somewhere around the transmission cross member forward. Everything from the cross member on back was open c-channel.
     
  8. tuney443

    tuney443 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,847

    If it's your truck you are looking at I believe you then,when I looked it up for the OP on Chevy's site,the frame did not get a mention that it was a new boxed design,so I assumed it was the typical GM open channel design.I haven't been around 1/2 tons in over 25 years or so,I only run 3/4 or 1 tons.Anyway,sorry for the wrong info.
     
  9. albhb3

    albhb3 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,510

    yes 1500 are boxed g/f father just got one a couple of weeks ago and yes I had to inspect
     
  10. tuney443

    tuney443 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,847

    When I come visit Vermont in a couple weeks maybe I'll call you first to see if you will be around hauling almost 6 ton in a 2500. I don't want to be anywhere near you.Besides DOT having their biggest woodie day ever after weighing and then fining you,you are a danger to everyone in your path.Apologies to the OP for getting this thread so far off track but this needed to be said.
     
  11. Tony350

    Tony350 Senior Member
    Messages: 546

    Aren't most HDs and Superduties rated to pull 12000 lbs anyways I don't think the DOT would have a problem with that. My skidloader in my dumptrailer weighs a little over 10,000bls and I don't feel I am being wreckless pulling that. My .02
     
  12. RichG53

    RichG53 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,135

    I agree!!!
    You brag about how much OVER weight you where...

    Then you wonder why things break...

    You are a menace on the road...

    Pulling and hauling are two different things...
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2011
  13. musclecarboy

    musclecarboy 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,303

    IMO plowing commercially with a 1500 is like a bakery using an easy-bake oven. Get the right equipment.
     
  14. Newdude

    Newdude Senior Member
    Messages: 878

    op mentioned 1500 and 2500hd in his post. Both the answers you quoted were pertaining to tuney443's initial response on 1500s.
     
  15. sabres07

    sabres07 Senior Member
    from buffalo
    Messages: 110

    Here is the deal, guys. I have an 05 1/2 ton standard cab with a Boss 7'6" straight blade. I only plow my own driveway and maybe my relatives' when it gets deep. Don't do it commercially. My '05 1/2 ton is not really up to the task of carting around that plow, so I started looking at 2500HD's. I found that 2011's have a fully boxed frame, which is nice. Then I find a salesman today who tells me I should look at a 2011 1500HD, which I didn't know was out there and I can't find any info on. I looked on a different lot and see that the front suspension is now coils and not torsion bars. For my application, should I look at a 2011 1500HD with the 5.3 engine versus a stripped down 2500HD??? I need to find out if the coil suspension with the boxed frame is better than my 2005 1/2 ton....any thoughts? Does the 1500HD have 2500 suspension parts?
     
  16. Tony350

    Tony350 Senior Member
    Messages: 546

    Hey tuney443 sorry about my earlier post I assumed that was with a trailer not just the truck. If that is just the truck then I would agree you are totally overweight at 18500lbs, my one ton ford is only good for11,400lbs. Well I got what I deserve for assuming, well at least I made an a$$ out of myself.
     
  17. BigLou80

    BigLou80 Senior Member
    Messages: 558

    10,000 with the 6.0 so I was slightly over weight but the truck pulled it no problem, we just turned up the electric brakes and forgot to turn them down after we unloaded OOPS

    If I have 12,000 in the bed of a single rear wheel pick up truck I think the tires would have popped
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2011
  18. BigLou80

    BigLou80 Senior Member
    Messages: 558

    Sabres07

    sorry for the thread drift, I was trying to illustrate that a 2500HD is infinitely more capable then a 1500. Lots of guys post here about wanting to buy a half ton for commercial plowing because its cheaper blah blah and will it work

    If all you are doing is your own driveway that a 1/2 ton should be fine, just remember it's not designed for commercial plowing/hauling

    Why do you think your current half ton is not up to the job? timbren's and some ballast can make a world of difference in how the truck carries the plow.
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2011
  19. BigLou80

    BigLou80 Senior Member
    Messages: 558

    I guess I should have said CGVW, I thought it would be obvious I had a dump trailer, but I guess I forgot what holier then thou blow hard's posted here.

    even if I filled the bed with concrete im not sure it would weight 12,000 lbs
     
  20. tuney443

    tuney443 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,847

    You were quite the topic there around me yesterday Big Lou as we're all wondering if this guy is in some kind of lead weights type biz to get 6 ton in a pickup bed.:eek: Next time,maybe you can mention there's a trailer involved.:nod::drinkup: