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$17500. for lowes!

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by lawn king, Oct 16, 2009.

  1. lawn king

    lawn king PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,070

    Thats the seasonal rate from you know who, includes deicing. These people are on drugs! This location in s e mass is about 80000 sq. ft.
     
  2. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    I could only dream of getting $9k/acre/season.
     
  3. Longae29

    Longae29 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,953

    Watch out Abington massachusetts here we come! i'm bringing $150 an hour and $.22/lb. for salt with me, hells yeah! I knew there were greener pastures somewhere!
     
  4. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    It must be the same company doing a very large plaza here in Pa. I dont know the exact sqft but its very close to 360,000 sqft....going for 18k-20k. WTF! That includes all sidewalks and salting for the season.
     
  5. lawn king

    lawn king PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,070

    The lady calls my office, informs me who she is, and says i have a great deal for you. She cant understand why im telling her to take a hike?
     
  6. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    That Lowes job sounds like decent money to me. Southeast Mass? Not even 20 storms a year? 2-3 hours of plowing and a ton of salt for almost a grand a trip? Am I missing something here?

    Brian - that one you're talking about sounds a little painful though.
     
  7. PTSolutions

    PTSolutions PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,533

    i agree, 80K isnt that big of a parking lot for that amount.

    we dont know the service levels though, trigger, although I assume trace, etc...
     
  8. lawn king

    lawn king PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,070

    You guys have at it, $50,000 gets my attention. You have to live through a kick a$$ new england winter!
     
  9. DellDoug

    DellDoug Senior Member
    Messages: 425

    I don't know about Mass but the average Lowes store here in Toronto would be worth about 50K-70K for the winter with salt and sidewalks included. This would be an average Lowes sized lot and about 45 events/season. This 20k seems very weak to me if the lots is an average sized Lowes store size. How much a tonne are you paying for salt down there and how much would it take? Is this guy even covering his salt cost?
     
  10. Burkartsplow

    Burkartsplow PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,245

    2 acres for $17500. I wish I could get that much an acrepayup. I think your sq. ft. estimate is off a bit :eek:.
     
  11. DAFFMOBILEWASH

    DAFFMOBILEWASH PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,598

    I thought the 17000K was a little light too. Perhaps it is a Canadian thing???? Then again I am a partial to the zero tolerance by the push accounts.;)
     
  12. Burkartsplow

    Burkartsplow PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,245

    that is only for 80000 sq ft. that is a cakewalk. All wide open and push to one end.
     
  13. lawn king

    lawn king PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,070

    We pay around $90. per ton for salt here. As far as footage goes, i eyeballed it, if anything im under by 10 or 20 thousand. Boston is the highest cost of living in the country. We pay more for everything from food to fuel! We handle an account like this with loaders, a cat loader rental is $5000. per month?
     
  14. DellDoug

    DellDoug Senior Member
    Messages: 425

    Well I don't know...But I will use our Toronto costs. Just salt. No labour or no plowing.....

    Salt by the time I load it store it and spread it costs me $150/tonne (includes truck and fuel) If I use 2 tonnes (which every Lowes store I have scene will take;they are all alot larger then 80,000 sq/ft) and its retail. Then I have a salt cost of $300/application. Now If you are going to salt 35 times a winter that would be $10500 in salt.

    Are you going to plow a lot and do the sidewalks for $7000 at a retail location? I'm not...not even close. If you only lost $10 000 in the senario I would be impressed. Now fire away and correct me if I am wrong.
     
  15. DellDoug

    DellDoug Senior Member
    Messages: 425

    Wow what is the address? I want to Google Earth this place?
     
  16. Burkartsplow

    Burkartsplow PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,245

    Not saying you are wrong. All I am saying here in the states and where I live a 2 acre lot is not big and can be done easily with a 10 ft blade in an hour an half. I have never seen a lowes parking lot that is only 80000 Sq ft. So I to would also like to google earth this place and take a look. I am not trying to argue with you and canadian prices and american prices are going to be different. But the one guy who says they use a loader on a 2 acre lot seems a bit extreme to me in most applications. We only bring in a loader twice a year to push back and stack piles around the site and we are set.
     
  17. DellDoug

    DellDoug Senior Member
    Messages: 425

    I think your right. We need to see a picture. Any Lowes I have ever scene would need a loader. In retail up here you also have to stack and relocate (on site) for the contract price. I don't think the prices are that different. Our Equipment and materials costs are about the same. The number of events and the level of quality is maybe different. In Toronto its black asphalt or your fired. The job has to be perfect or you will also be sued out of business.
     
  18. MSS Mow

    MSS Mow Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 983

    I visit Boston a few times a year (10-12 times) mainly for leisure activities such as Red Sox, Bruins, etc.

    From what I always observe, the cost of fuel is consistently 15-25cents LOWER than here in Maine. We of course eat out 3 meals a day while there and find that those costs are similar in cost to what we see here. Hotels depend on exact location, but can also be similar in pricing to many other areas of the country, even lower in places. From what I hear housing is quite a bit higher in Boston, but I wouldn't know first hand.

    My point is that the grass is not always greener on the other side of the state border. Many people think that living in rural maine that things are cheap. NOT SO.
     
  19. salopez

    salopez Senior Member
    Messages: 873

    wow down here, Brickman charged Lowes, 35k for a 10 inch storm.
     
  20. REAPER

    REAPER 2000 Club Member
    from 60050
    Messages: 2,228

    400 Bedford St
    Abington, MA 02351
    (781) 681-6513


    Lowes address in that town from google.

    Lifted from google earth

    400 Bedford.jpg

    Not sure what lot it is on the map

    Here is a street view off google maps

    street view.jpg

    400 Bedford.jpg

    street view.jpg
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2009