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174,000 sq ft lot, what would you charge?

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by doh, Nov 8, 2007.

  1. doh

    doh Senior Member
    Messages: 252

    174,000 sq ft lot, what would you charge?

    Opened up before 6:00 am

    50,000 sq ft gravel

    2" trigger

    3 hr's by a truck @ 4" and under with 8' plow

    No sanding/salting or removal

    Lets say per event of 3" 's
     
  2. troy28282

    troy28282 Senior Member
    Messages: 178

    You need to re-think your times a little. Gravel takes alot longer then asphalt
     
  3. Snow_Pusher

    Snow_Pusher Junior Member
    Messages: 27

    I would figure 4 hours per tuck, if conditions were ideal. If I was estimating the job, short of seeing the actual layout/obsticles, I probably would say 5 hours for the first 2-4 inches.
     
  4. doh

    doh Senior Member
    Messages: 252

    So what would the $$$$ value be.

    It can be done in 3 hrs, I have been doing this lot for 10 years. I was just out bid, the same per hour price with bigger equipment.
     
  5. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,868

    Doesn't matter, a price in Jersey would probably be $1000 and Erie it would probably be $150. Pricing is too regional to matter.

    You're plowing 174K ft in 3 hours with about a third as gravel? Wow, I'm impressed.

    Why don't you give a percentage of what you were underbid by?
     
  6. MIDTOWNPC

    MIDTOWNPC PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,452

    My calculator says...

    SUMMARY
    Total Sq. Ft 174000
    Total Acres 3.99
    PLOW TIMES
    Truck With 8' Plow
    Depth.....Time To Plow
    2"-4" 5:20
    4"-6" 11:60
    6"-8" 13:19
    8"-12" 14:39

    thats pavement, not gravel.
     
  7. doh

    doh Senior Member
    Messages: 252

    Sorry I recalculated it at 140,000 sq/ft


    Reguardless I was matched on a per hour bassis but they use a loader and 12' blade.
     
  8. doh

    doh Senior Member
    Messages: 252

    My 3 hr's billable I figure they could do in 1.5-2hrs the other bid was way higher than mine (only 3 bidding)
     
  9. MIDTOWNPC

    MIDTOWNPC PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,452

    Im confused? doesnt a loader bill more per hour then a truck. I mean isnt that the point, they can do it faster so they charge more.


    eg truck takes 3 hours at $75 an hour is $225 total

    loader goes for $125 for 2 hours $250 total

    I just used any numbers, dont quote me on these prices or anything.

    I have won some contracts not because of the price but because of the fact that I can do it faster with more "machine power" sort of speak. Eg we are going to use a bobcat and a loader on this property plus a truck get it done in 1 hour where the other wants to just use his truck and take 4 hours.
     
  10. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

    No offense but if I was a property manager and I had a choice of a pickup or a loader to plow my place at the same price, I would pick the loader. No matter how much it snows the loader can handle the job. I'm not saying you didn't do a good job but there are times when pickups can't get the job done. This is all assuming that the loader is from a reputable company. I'm just trying to give you the other side of the story. It sucks you lost a good contract.
     
  11. doh

    doh Senior Member
    Messages: 252

    Exactly my point, it should take him 1/2-2/3 the time. and more money invested in equipment.

    My time was before business hours, it was next to impossible to plow it during business hours due to traffic.

    I never had an event I couldn't move with the truck. Sometimes I did have to go over it twice to handle the heavier loads.

    Oh well, move on and look for some new ones.