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10ft Box/Snow pusher too much for a smaller skid steer?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by JD Hernandez, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. JD Hernandez

    JD Hernandez Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    I have a New Holland L555 ( Smaller type Skid steer : Bobcats,cat,johndeere)
    its 45hp Diesel

    Can I put a 10ft pusher on it?

    Any advice?

    Thanks.

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  2. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,503

    No..........

    Look for a 8 ft and good snow tires
     
  3. Mark13

    Mark13 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,734

    That machine would handle a 10' if your just moving it around. Being that the machine is only about 5,000lbs and with very poor tires it will struggle to push an 8' box very far. It will also be rather slow going no matter what you have on the front of it.
     
  4. JD Hernandez

    JD Hernandez Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    May I ask why?
     
  5. Mark13

    Mark13 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,734

    What are you curious about?


    Edit, and in your sig your 2011 is either a 6.2 (Gas) or a 6.7 (Diesel). The 6.4 (Diesel) was 2008-2010.
     
  6. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,503

    Weight, traction and then power in that order. that machine is lacking.
     
  7. JD Hernandez

    JD Hernandez Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Is the weight the issue or is it the speed the problem?
     
  8. JD Hernandez

    JD Hernandez Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Thank you for all the input.
     
  9. Mark13

    Mark13 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,734

    Yes.


    Momentum (ie. speed) helps keep things moving.

    Figure the truck in your sig is 7,000 pounds or more pushing an 8' straight blade at 10-15mph across a lot. The truck knows it's working but it does fine. The 8' straight blade isn't really pushing as much snow forwards as it is pushing the snow sideways.

    Now take the skid steer that is 2,000lbs lighter pushing a "plow" that is 2' wider then the truck blade and with the side plates is actually holding the snow and pushing it all in front of you. There isn't much snow rolling action going on to help your keep momentum. So your already lacking weight and pushing a plow that holds 2-4x the amount of snow as the truck blade and now your doing it at 4-5 mph. Your skid steer just has to much working against it in that situation to be productive in any way.
     
  10. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,503

    Very well put Mark.
     
  11. shaunnshelly

    shaunnshelly Senior Member
    Messages: 143

    We push a 10' skid steer model Pro-tech with a 5500lb Tool Cat. No problem. We also plow with the storm and try not to allow more than 4" accumulation.
     
  12. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    Say I might be able plow with a 10ft with my 68hp new skid but I was testing the water since this first full time plow skid So I bought a pro tech Sno-blade 7'6 with manual wings Its a 7.6 box or a 8'11'' wing plow or 9.6 straight plow.

    I'll run it this year and see for my self what my Skid can handle
     
  13. badabing1512

    badabing1512 Senior Member
    Messages: 370

    Are you doing long runs or short runs?
    Do you get more wet snow or dry snow?
    Can you stay on top of heavy storms (plowing no more than 4 inches or so)?
    As mentioned earlier, a good set of tires goes a long way as well...

    These are all questions you need to ask yourself...

    IMO an 8 foot box would be the limit in most conditions
     
  14. rob_cook2001

    rob_cook2001 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,181

    No way would I try more than an 8ft box on that skid!! I run a 10 foot box on my s650 which is around 75 hp and over 8000lbs with new tires and there are times she struggles for traction. Get an 8ft plow for it or a set of snow tires and a 8ft box.
     
  15. derekbroerse

    derekbroerse 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,377

    I kinda figured a 10'er would even be too big for my Lx885, which is a considerably bigger machine than the L555. I was looking at 9'ers. Even an 8' might be too much for it to handle in a heavy storm, especially if it starts to get away on you. I think I'd be looking at a blade with wings on that machine...
     
  16. JD Hernandez

    JD Hernandez Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Thank you for all the advice and suggestions.

    I will go with an 8ft and yes also get some new tires for sure.

    Thanks again everyone,

    Let it snow.
     
  17. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Would a rubber tracked machine, say 10k lbs and 100 hp, be more able to move a larger pusher?
     
  18. leigh

    leigh PlowSite.com Addict
    from CT
    Messages: 1,987

    Depends on which tracks are on it.Polar tracks ,yes. HP doesn't help if your spinning out, unless it's a burn out competition!
     
  19. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    The tracks do not grip better than tires? Unless using specialized?
     
  20. Team_Arctic

    Team_Arctic Senior Member
    Messages: 176

    no not normally, it depends on the tread pattern, and weight of the machine. I have found that the Bar lug style, common on the older cat machines work alright stock, most others need an aftermarket snow track to grip