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01 F350 - too much front weight w/ plow?

Discussion in 'Ford Trucks' started by J_Kleve, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. J_Kleve

    J_Kleve Junior Member
    Messages: 18

    I've got a 8.5 ft Meyer Diamond and when the plow is up the front drives on the truck. Maybe I'm just use to the F550, but it seems a little too much. I don't have the snow plow package but I've got the tow package (6k gvw if I recall). It's a 5.4 gas.

    Has anyone added air bags or extra leafs to the front? Do you think its necessary?

    The truck is used for driveways, alleys and some small commercial lots.
     
  2. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    Look on the drivers door jamb and see what the front end is rated for and go from there. My F250 carries a Snoway 8 1/2' V Plow with no problems.
     
  3. framer1901

    framer1901 Senior Member
    Messages: 813

    Save your money and throw 500# in the bed over the axle and` don't look bvack.
     
  4. wild bill

    wild bill PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,239

    front end

    you need a min 5200 lb front gross axle weight rating,unless it's real light and you have a lot of obstacle's ,flat ground should be ok with ballast .or add a leaf to the front or timbren load booster's
     
  5. BoulderBronco

    BoulderBronco Senior Member
    Messages: 233

    8.5' plow on an F150! Way to much. After 96 the F150's front ends were not as beefy (not that the pre 97's were all that beefy either.) And on the pre 97's you can't put anything bigger than a 7.5' and even that is pushing it in some peoples opinion.
     
  6. Boast Enterpris

    Boast Enterpris Senior Member
    Messages: 745

    You need about 500lbs balast behind the back axle. This will solve you problems.
     
  7. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,868

    Except when backing.

    :dizzy: :dizzy: He said an '01 F350, not 150. Guess that 8'2" Boss V on my 1500 has been way too much for the past 11 seasons.

    Shouldn't be too much. I have an '00 350 with an 8'6" Fisher V and an '02 with a Blizzard 8611LP. Did add a leaf to the '02 because the LP is a heavy plow.

    :dizzy: :dizzy:

    Not really sure what the question is, though. Are you saying that your 550 is smoother than the 350 with the plow? What year is your 550? If it has the new coil springs, yes it does and always will ride nicer than a leaf spring 350, same thing happens with my trucks.
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2007
  8. J_Kleve

    J_Kleve Junior Member
    Messages: 18

    It was a newer 550, I was referring just to the amount of dive the truck has when lifting the plow. That one had a 10 footer on it and there was almost no dive. I was trying to put into proportion to the amount of dive my 1 ton has.

    My truck has a tommy gate on the back, that's a solid 600 LBS, so I should be fine. I'll double check the tag in the door - but the thing seems to have every other 'heavy duty' feature.
     
  9. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,868

    OK, thanks for clarifying. Sometimes it's the little voices that mess me up.

    Anyways, no it shouldn't be diving that much, but the springs on a 350 are weaker than 550 so you will have more sag\dive even with a smaller plow than a 550. My 550 with 8611 drops about 1 1/2", that's a 1500# plow and the 350 would drop more than that with the LP a 1000# plow. So I added a leaf. They weren't worn out, just needed some help. Maybe yours are tired, maybe they can be rearched, not sure. But an 8.5 Meyer is not too much plow for that truck, especially with the 5.4. Mine all have diesels and are fine.

    Heck, maybe Ford didn't put the right springs in even if it did have the plow prep. They've screwed up before, it's just some guy on a line installing springs, could have grabbed the wrong ones, someone might have marked the spring pack wrong, who knows.
     
  10. J_Kleve

    J_Kleve Junior Member
    Messages: 18

    The truck does have 106k on it. I thought it was odd because there was 2(?) springs in the stack. It seemed light. I'll check to see how much the truck is dropping but I bet it was 2-2.5".
     
  11. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,868

    Yeah, my diesel only had 2 springs up front too. And it has the plow prep, plus diesel. I also added Timbrens. The extra leaf leveled it out too.
     
  12. PLOWTIME

    PLOWTIME Junior Member
    from ct
    Messages: 20

    I have a 99 f 250 with a 9ft fisher. I put in a tuff country 3.5" leveling kit and the front end only drops a 1/2" with no ballast.
     
  13. BoulderBronco

    BoulderBronco Senior Member
    Messages: 233

    Doh!:drinkup:
     
  14. midnightrodeo

    midnightrodeo Junior Member
    Messages: 15

    I HAVE AN 04' F-350 AND I PUT F-550 SPRIGS UNDER THE FRONT OF IT AND IT SURE HELPED IT HOLD THE WEIGHT OF THE PLOW. ALSO HAVE A 05' F-350 W/ BOSS V-PLOW W/ F-550 SPRINGS IN THE FRONT AND IT WORKS GREAT TOO!
     
  15. wild bill

    wild bill PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,239

    swing low

    i think air lift make's air bag kit's for the front if they clear the mount kit !
     
  16. earl964

    earl964 Member
    Messages: 53

    I had the same problem . I have a 350 diesel I ended up putting a extra spring in the front and it maid a big difference
     
  17. oldmankent

    oldmankent PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,318

    beef up the front springs
     
  18. rcpd34

    rcpd34 Senior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 670

  19. natureguy

    natureguy Junior Member
    from indiana
    Messages: 16

    i have an 04 350 that i beefed the front springs on. i took an overload spring from the rear stack ( these can be purchased at the dealership for about a hundred bucks) and added it under the front leaf pack. i got about 2 inches of lift or leveling out of it and the nose of the truck only moves maybe an inch with the plow up. the overload spring is the high arched spring on top of the rear stack. just fyi. my overall ride is pretty stiff but it is solid when plowing. ALWAYS add weight to the bed so the front isn't doing all the work!!!!
     
  20. dieselboy

    dieselboy Member
    Messages: 43

    Have you had any issues since adding that helper to the front leaf pack? i think i might try that.