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Old 10-22-2009, 03:09 PM
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D50 vs D60 Front Axle.

In the 99+ SD's, how big of a deal is it on which front axle the truck has?

I'm looking for an 02-03 7.3psd F350 so it would have the Dana 60 but if I found a good deal on an earlier F350 or F250 I'd like to have a bit of info about them to see if they are worth considering or not. I beleive all the F350's should have a 60 but I've heard of some getting 50's for who knows what reason. The truck would probably end up with a 9ft+ V blade or some sort of an expandable wing plow.


And what's the deal with the 7 lug superdutys??
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:46 PM
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In the 99+ SD's, how big of a deal is it on which front axle the truck has?

I'm looking for an 02-03 7.3psd F350 so it would have the Dana 60 but if I found a good deal on an earlier F350 or F250 I'd like to have a bit of info about them to see if they are worth considering or not. I beleive all the F350's should have a 60 but I've heard of some getting 50's for who knows what reason.
02 was the first year the d60 was available on the super duty. I dont remember hearing of a large amount of front end failures on ford trucks...transmissions, yes...engines, yes...not so much on the front ends.

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And what's the deal with the 7 lug superdutys??
just hubcaps, the wheels are 8 lug on 170 mm (iirc) the hubcaps are the only thing that are 7 lug...another of fords better ideas.
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:52 PM
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A Dana 50 is a Dana 44 internals put inside a Dana 60 housing.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:00 PM
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A Dana 50 is a Dana 44 internals put inside a Dana 60 housing.
The Dana 50 is totally different. I thought ^ also but upon looking it up I was wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_50
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I'm not sure how correct that is. Because it also says they were put under superduties through 2004
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:28 PM
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I'm not sure how correct that is. Because it also says they were put under superduties through 2004
Ya, along with the D50 being rated for 5,000lbs and the D60 for 4500lbs. I'd think it would be the other way around.
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d50's gas motor
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:45 PM
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Ya, along with the D50 being rated for 5,000lbs and the D60 for 4500lbs. I'd think it would be the other way around.


Actual that for leaf spring rated.

front axle can hold 6,000 pound max.

Not sure about D50 but should be 6,000 pound max.

D50 for F250 in 200-2003 then they went to D60

D60 for F350 it have since superduty was build.
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Old 10-24-2009, 11:37 AM
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In the 99+ SD's, how big of a deal is it on which front axle the truck has?
I have a '99 F350 with the D50 front that I have plowed with an 8-foot Western Pro plow since new and have not had an issue with the front axle at all.

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I'm looking for an 02-03 7.3psd F350 so it would have the Dana 60 but if I found a good deal on an earlier F350 or F250 I'd like to have a bit of info about them to see if they are worth considering or not. I believe all the F350's should have a 60 but I've heard of some getting 50's for who knows what reason. The truck would probably end up with a 9ft+ V blade or some sort of an expandable wing plow.
D50's came under all super duty single rear trucks from 1999 until mid-year 2002. That is why some 2002 single rear trucks have D50 and D60 axles.

D60's came under all super duty dually trucks from 1999 and up.

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And what's the deal with the 7 lug superdutys??
There were not any 7 lug super duties, but there was a 7 lug F-250HD (heavy duty) which was basically a F-150 with different axles under it in 1999.

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Old 10-24-2009, 04:59 PM
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A Dana 50 is a Dana 44 internals put inside a Dana 60 housing.
wrong, dana44-8.5" ring gear, dana 50-9" ring gear, dana 60 9.5" ring gear...axle sizes are similar but not the same. 1.18" vs 1.21"

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The Dana 50 is totally different. I thought ^ also but upon looking it up I was wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_50
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D50 for F250 in 200-2003 then they went to D60

D60 for F350 it have since superduty was build.
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I have a '99 F350 with the D50 front that I have plowed with an 8-foot Western Pro plow since new and have not had an issue with the front axle at all.



D50's came under all super duty single rear trucks from 1999 until mid-year 2002. That is why some 2002 single rear trucks have D50 and D60 axles.

D60's came under all super duty dually trucks from 1999 and up.



There were not any 7 lug super duties, but there was a 7 lug F-250HD (heavy duty) which was basically a F-150 with different axles under it in 1999.

Hope that helps.
finally, right on all accounts although I'm not certain about the drw dana 60s in 99-02
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Thanks for setting it all straight! So my 2003 SRW f250 should have a d60?
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Old 10-24-2009, 06:15 PM
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]There were not any 7 lug super duties, but there was a 7 lug F-250HD (heavy duty) which was basically a F-150 with different axles under it in 1999.

Hope that helps.
So all the SD's I see with 7 lug hubcaps are just that, only hubcaps? There is 8 lug wheels under them? I see a lot of them in my area and knew the ld2500s were 7lug. I just didn't want to end up with a truck that was a pita to find wheels for if I wanted to go aftermarket or in need of replacing a stock wheel for some reason.
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although I'm not certain about the drw dana 60s in 99-02
I'm pretty sure that is correct as I always thought about looking for a wreaked drw truck if I started having problems with my D50 to get the D60 out of it, but it never became an issue.

Oh and just to clarify, all 1999 and up srw super duties have the Sterling rear axle and the drw have the D70 at least up to the 2005 models. I haven't really paid as close attention since then.

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So my 2003 SRW f250 should have a d60?
My understanding is that you should have a D60. It was sometime in the 2002 model year that they made the which to all D60 front axles.

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So all the SD's I see with 7 lug hubcaps are just that, only hubcaps? There is 8 lug wheels under them? I see a lot of them in my area and knew the ld2500s were 7lug. I just didn't want to end up with a truck that was a pita to find wheels for if I wanted to go aftermarket or in need of replacing a stock wheel for some reason.
Humm.....I never noticed the 7 lug hubcaps on the SD's. Guess I will have to check it out, but yes all SD's have 8 lug wheels. It was just that 1999 F250HD that had the 7 lugs. Just remember that the 1999 and up SD's wheels are a metric pattern and that the offset is different on wheels made for the 1999 to 2004 compared to the 2005 and up trucks.
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Ronin I think Mark was talk about those Van's hubcap which have 7 lugs.





Well what about crew cab with long bed would it have dana 50 or Dana 60? It have heavy duty tow package.
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Well what about crew cab with long bed would it have dana 50 or Dana 60? It have heavy duty tow package.
if it was produced in early 02 or earlier, it has a dana 50
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Ronin I think Mark was talk about those Van's hubcap which have 7 lugs.


I never noticed that on those hubcaps. Interesting.

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Well what about crew cab with long bed would it have dana 50 or Dana 60? It have heavy duty tow package.
My understanding is as long as it srw it is a D50 front axle regardless of configeration for all 1999 to mid-2002. Mine has the HD tow package also.
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For what we use them for i highly doubt anyone will break a D50 plowing. I have a D50 with an ARB locker in my Ex with 41" tires and almost 700hp at the tires. I have beat the balls off this axle for the last 5 years and i has held up to what i have thrown at it. My F250 plow truck has had a Blizzard 8611lp for the last 3 seasons and i have just had to replace the front wheel bearings after 265k. Quit worring about what axle it has and find a truck you like.
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wrong, dana44-8.5" ring gear, dana 50-9" ring gear, dana 60 9.5" ring gear...axle sizes are similar but not the same. 1.18" vs 1.21"



wrong

again, wrong

finally, right on all accounts although I'm not certain about the drw dana 60s in 99-02

you call me wrong.......but he says the d60 is only for the dually trucks.....how do i have it on my diesel SRW
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you call me wrong.......but he says the d60 is only for the dually trucks.....how do i have it on my diesel SRW
Because your truck is an 04 and they started using them in mid/late 02 in all the SD trucks.
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Didn't F350 superduty SRW supposed to have Dana 60?
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