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Old 09-15-2013, 09:12 PM
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Back Blades/Pull Plows

How many use back blades/pull plows and how do you like them? How are they on commercial/residential? Effective?

Read a lot of older threads, would like some fresh input please.

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Old 09-19-2013, 11:06 PM
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if you are referring to a back drag edge on a plow i would like to let you know i have a wastern mvp v plow 8.6and it scrapes just as good backing up as in drive!!!!
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:43 AM
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We use Snowman 8' rear plows. Do lots of condo drives backing up to overhead doors. Wouldn't be without them. Makes the truck kind of long, but saves a lot of time turning around when back dragging with the front blade.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:07 AM
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Read a lot of older threads, would like some fresh input please.

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I can give you some fresh input when I actually see snow again....




OTOH, last year was the first time I used a backdrag on my western, and I really liked how well it worked. I got mine from my local western dealer..
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:45 PM
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I can give you some fresh input when I actually see snow again....




OTOH, last year was the first time I used a backdrag on my western, and I really liked how well it worked. I got mine from my local western dealer..
LOL...too late at that point.
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Old 09-21-2013, 01:17 AM
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Just to clarify, he's asking about back blades. Not a backdrag blade for a front plow.
I just installed one on one of my trucks. Anxious to use it.
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Old 09-21-2013, 06:47 AM
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Just to clarify, he's asking about back blades. Not a backdrag blade for a front plow.
I just installed one on one of my trucks. Anxious to use it.
My bad.....


I thought he was asking about both backdrag and pull plow.
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Old 09-21-2013, 02:40 PM
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We use the Hiniker "C" Plow. Much easier to pull up to a garage door (or whatever) than back up to one in the dark while it is snowing. Also makes the truck really long if dealing in tight quarters. Had a Daniels pull plows but the drivers barely used them.
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Old 09-24-2013, 07:56 PM
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Bumping this back up, also interested in what everyone has to say about them.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:02 PM
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Bumping this back up, also interested in what everyone has to say about them.
From what i have seen and experienced it seems like both are going to get you about the same results.

A back drag edge for a front plow gives you the correct angle on scraping up snow. a back blade gives you down pressure.

both gives you a clean scrape. so to me the issue becomes the other features and price

2nd edge on a front plow is much cheaper. if all you are doing is drives, i think this would be the best option. but, a back blade can be expandable (i would never buy one that wasnt) which can help with big lots.
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Old 09-24-2013, 11:52 PM
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Back blades are awesome. Will be running them on all three trucks this year. Residential/private lanes mostly. Increase productivity tremendously which allows you to add more work per vehicle. Shines with circle drives, half circle drives and just about any driveway. Comparing a rear box type plow to a back drag edge is very silly.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:11 AM
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My comparison was for someone doing drives only.

I mentioned the extra value in lots same as.you did
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:39 AM
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I do 95% residential. Half circle and full circle driveways are done with both blades down. Cuts time 50% no kidding. A lot cleaner. Straight driveway done 25% faster and much cleaner, no trail off from back drag. Small tight alleyway back parking lots where you need to place the snow in certain spots-priceless. I have used it to move piles and drifts in blizzards as well.

If i just wanted scraping ability, yes a backdrag blade is enough. Rear plows move mountains of snow without trail off and down to the pavement.
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Old 09-25-2013, 09:50 PM
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I do 95% residential. Half circle and full circle driveways are done with both blades down. Cuts time 50% no kidding. A lot cleaner. Straight driveway done 25% faster and much cleaner, no trail off from back drag. Small tight alleyway back parking lots where you need to place the snow in certain spots-priceless. I have used it to move piles and drifts in blizzards as well.

If i just wanted scraping ability, yes a backdrag blade is enough. Rear plows move mountains of snow without trail off and down to the pavement.
Do you find that backing your truck/plow to the garage door is more of a hassle than pulling in forward with a regular front mount plow?
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Do you find that backing your truck/plow to the garage door is more of a hassle than pulling in forward with a regular front mount plow?
I am a little slower at night but this year i will have led lights. But if you know your driveways well and you have good tires, you can back into them just as fast. I do find it more safe with some driveways as i am not backing up into traffic.

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Old 09-26-2013, 04:31 AM
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Bottom line for me and my residential business, a pull plow makes each truck more efficient and does a cleaner job. I can add more work for them which makes more money with them. With good operators, three trucks equipped both front and rear plows, can do the work of four with front blade only. Taking one truck away means a lot. It means no initial cost of another vehicle, no 100 a month in liability insurance, no maintenance costs on another vehicle, no extra driver to pay, and more. It pays for it self fast.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:02 AM
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There's a reason back blades have been in use in some areas since the late 50's early 60's.
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There's a reason back blades have been in use in some areas since the late 50's early 60's.
Do you have any input to add? I'm curious about the backblades.
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:36 PM
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Do you have any input to add? I'm curious about the backblades.
Back blades have 2 advantages. 16' width, and down pressure. it holds the back end of your truck up, and the weight pushes down on the blade, the pressure lets you get a real clean scrape.

probably better than a back drag edge, not better enough in my opinion. never seen anyone pay more money for a back dragged driveway. they do pay extra for salt
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:59 PM
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Back blades have 2 advantages. 16' width, and down pressure. it holds the back end of your truck up, and the weight pushes down on the blade, the pressure lets you get a real clean scrape.

probably better than a back drag edge, not better enough in my opinion. never seen anyone pay more money for a back dragged driveway. they do pay extra for salt
Since when has any snowplow operator charged based on the method of plowing? Meaning push, pull, back drag, etc.

The purpose of back blades is to make the truck more versatile and efficient, thus hopefully cutting down the operating time and saving money. The time saved could also allow an operator to take on more work, thus more profit.
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