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Old 03-01-2011, 06:14 PM
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Hiniker Scoop or V-plow

I have been looking at getting a new plow for next season and I am trying to decide between a Hiniker 8' scoop or 8' V-plow. I currently have an older Hiniker 8.5' straight blade that I put wings on. I really like the plow and have had no issues with it but it just not fit the type of plowing I do.

I have 1 large townhouse complex that I open the streets with and the straight blade is not the right plow for this type of work, the wings help but are not the answer. I use a skid steer with a 9' blade to do the drives and this set up has the Kage system on it that works great. I just need to be more efficient with the streets.

I also have 2 small to medium parking lots, a small town house and 15 residencial driveways to plow.

I am curious to hear how the Scoop plow back drags. This is really my main concern. I know a Blizzard plow would be the best choice but my truck would have a hard time with that much weight up front. I have a 2003 Chev 1500HD with Timbrens up front. It carries the 8.5' Hinijer with no problem but with 950 lbs up front I would have to have 800 lbs in balast that is a lot of weight.

Let me hear your pros and cons of a v-plow and a scoop.

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Old 03-01-2011, 06:41 PM
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I just put on a 8.5 Hiniker v-plow, and love it. Hope to use it a couple more times this season. I can't comment on the scoop, though. I like the versatility of the v, but that is just for my use.

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Old 03-01-2011, 10:24 PM
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The only advantage the V has is busting stuff open, the scoop holds more snow.
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:19 AM
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But how do they back drag?
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:47 AM
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I'm just thinking that both of those plows sound a little heavy for a 1/2 ton turck. The v should back drag simmilar to your current plow, I've never used a scoop so don't know how well they backdrag.

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Old 03-02-2011, 09:11 AM
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A 1500HD is NOT a 1/2 ton, it is the exact same a a 2500 NON HD from Mid 90's to 2003. The front end capacity is the same. I see a lot of v-plows on those trucks. With the Timbren up fron I should have no issue.

I realize that a v-plow will back drag the same as my current plow. I guess I should have been a little more clear on the info I wanted... how does a Scoop plow back drag?
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:34 AM
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They back drag fine until the cutting edge wears down to nothing. Call me and I'll explain 612-810-8370 Rob
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Old 03-02-2011, 04:41 PM
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Sorry, I read your post too fast and didn't notice the HD. You should be fine with that truck. I've never used a scoop plow but I would think they would backdrag about the same as a straight. Does the dealer have a demo model you can try for a couple hours? It should hook right up to your truck, I know the mount is the same and I'm pretty shure the wiring is also.
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:50 PM
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:42 PM
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Never used a scoop but this last storm I put about 24 consecutive hours on one of our 9.5 Hiniker Poly V plows. I was impressed with the plow its fast, backdrags really nice, like the high clearance trip edge etc.
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:09 PM
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Just thinking out loud here...would you be better off, especially considering the driveway factor, and then budget wise...to just invest in a pull plow? hell, you could even get a smaller Ebling Pull Plow for what a Hinker like your thinking will run and you will have back drag exellence as well as a much larger cutting swath and zero trail off.
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:25 AM
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I have a 9' ploy scoop plow and love it. I have curb guards on it. The plow back drags really nice if the snows light. If it's heavy it takes a couple times but I'm in the process of making a fixed back drag plate. If you have question give me a call 320-212-9552. I recommend Herman's Landscape Supply in Jordan, I knows its kinda of a drive from Rogers but well worth the drive they set you up! And they give you Preseason pricing all year! Tell them Cole from Dassel sent you. I do all my snow plow business there.
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:03 AM
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I will look into the Scoop and contact them down in Jordan.

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Old 03-10-2011, 03:12 PM
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In our experience most of the time we don't need to offset the weight too much as long as you have the timbren kit installed. You can also contact timbren and get some heavier duty springs to go in place of the ones your kit came with if need be.

Did you ever make a decision is to what you want to do?
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:35 PM
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Still have not decided what I am going to do. A scoop would be the ticket for the parking lots and townhouse complexes but for residential a v plow would work better. Both plows weigh about the same and are within 75 lbs of my plow with an back drag blade and wings on it. I got my Timbrens from a buddy who had an older Chev 2500 and I had to modify thm slightly but they fit in and work great. I may have to crank the torsion bars a bit with a heavier plow. I will not worry about that until I get the plow.
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Old 03-10-2011, 06:45 PM
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Still have not decided what I am going to do. A scoop would be the ticket for the parking lots and townhouse complexes but for residential a v plow would work better. Both plows weigh about the same and are within 75 lbs of my plow with an back drag blade and wings on it. I got my Timbrens from a buddy who had an older Chev 2500 and I had to modify thm slightly but they fit in and work great. I may have to crank the torsion bars a bit with a heavier plow. I will not worry about that until I get the plow.
Check the Z height on your truck I am willing to bet it's low. I ended up turning my bars up 3-4 turns just to get the Z height to spec. No timbrens needed really. Call me again and I can explain how to adjust them, or you can do a search on here.
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:09 PM
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Yup I don't need to turn up my torsion bars at all since I have a lift and bigger tires on one of my trucks. But that is what I would do on my other trucks.
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:39 PM
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I had a 9 ft scoop on a 2004 2500 chevy HD. The truck handled it well. On heavier wet stuff I would run out of traction/ power. Aside from not being able to get right up to garages because of the scoop, it would back drag no diffrent than a straight blade. Loved the fact that the trip edge was segmented in three pieces. Was awesome in the 2- 3 inch powder snow and in cleaning up. Took a 45 min parking lot with 8ft straightblade and turned it into 30 min max.
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:16 PM
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Just an update on this...I bought an 8' Scoop today. I got a new last years model that the company had used for shows and such. I feel I got a good deal on it since they added the snow deflector and curb guards in on the quoted price for "free", labor included. Now I have to sell my plow. So if anyone is interested here it is:

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...623298323.html

I can't wait to try this scoop plow out!

Thanks everyone for your input.
Graig
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:32 PM
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I decided for my application I bought a 9' C plow for my 2000 F-350 diesel. Bought it used and had it installed yesterday by a hiniker dealer.
I think the flip portion will help me with back dragging drive ways and small parking lots.
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