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Old 03-07-2010, 08:44 PM
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I know what it feels like to tip a skid steer...

Helping some friends unload some trailer's last night and of course we were unloading the last trailer. It was a 18ft low boy. I lifted the trailer off of my new trailer, he drove out from underneath it and I needed to raise it about 4" more to clear everything. Just as my new trailer was clear it started to tip forward. As I let go of the controls my foot got kinda stuck pushing down on the "raise" pedal and up the forks went with the trailer and it started bouncing everywhere. The trailer fell off, the skid bounced back and forth so violently it rolled back on the rear door then finally landed with the door about 3 inches off the ground. I about sh!t my pants! Only damage to the trailer was one fender had a slight bend at the outside lip and cracked the right rear brake drum. Damage to me...smashed my shins very bad, very sore neck and cracked my elbow pretty bad. It was quite an experience, I don't recommend it!
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Thats crazy! Ive been in a bounce before but never like you described.. was it foot controlls?
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:16 PM
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Thats crazy! Ive been in a bounce before but never like you described.. was it foot controlls?
Yeah it was in his skid steer, a BobCat S185.
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I had my own tip back on its rocker and then getting it out of that position was the bounce part. I was backing up and there was a giant ground hog hole that gave way.

Good thing nothing went terrible wrong... that can hurt the friendship. Shins heal
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:56 PM
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I had my own tip back on its rocker and then getting it out of that position was the bounce part. I was backing up and there was a giant ground hog hole that gave way.

Good thing nothing went terrible wrong... that can hurt the friendship. Shins heal
Well the thing is, I am a customer buying a trailer from them and the one guy said he couldn't make it but I guess he just didn't feel like unloading them. The other guys didn't know how to run a skid steer.
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There is no way you guys should have been using a loader that couldn't easily handle the weight of those trailers. Well you learned a lesson, and got lucky you didn't hurt yourself seriously. I don't know the numbers but a lot of people get seriously injured or die from skidsteer accidents every year. Last year here a rental skid killed someone. They are extremely useful machines, but at the same time, dangerous!
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:41 PM
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It never fails to amaze me to see how many people climb into a skid and don't put on the seat belt, like the lap bar will hold them in place. They're usually the ones that crash it because they move around when it gets rough and end up doing something they hadn't intended to do.

Nosing them over is scary at first--salt pallets can make a standard S250 very twitchy, and a 185 won't lift them more than a few inches before lifting.

Glad you're OK, but seriously--how's the trailer?

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Old 03-08-2010, 10:53 AM
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never had the misforune of tipping a skid yet, one of these days its going to happen though
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:21 AM
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It never fails to amaze me to see how many people climb into a skid and don't put on the seat belt, like the lap bar will hold them in place. They're usually the ones that crash it because they move around when it gets rough and end up doing something they hadn't intended to do.

Nosing them over is scary at first--salt pallets can make a standard S250 very twitchy, and a 185 won't lift them more than a few inches before lifting.

Glad you're OK, but seriously--how's the trailer?

Well I got thinking, my skid steer is an open one for now (waiting on my door) and if the seat belt failed (like mine did) and wouldn't latch properly, I would have been thrown out for sure. I will never buy a skid steer without a door EVER! As far as the trailer....the only thing wrong with it is the fender got a bent up a tiny bit and the right rear backing plate for the brakes got bent. I talked to the guy this morning and he said all repairs are pretty much done.
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:23 AM
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never had the misforune of tipping a skid yet, one of these days its going to happen though
Hopefully it doesn't but if it does.....LET GO OF EVERYTHING!!!!!! it might still hit hard but at least it won't start flipping you everywhere. I am sore today!
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That could hurt. Personally, I think they need five point harnesses, but that's just me. Chances of getting hurt are pretty slim if you stay put, no matter what happens.
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:24 AM
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Hopefully it doesn't but if it does.....LET GO OF EVERYTHING!!!!!! it might still hit hard but at least it won't start flipping you everywhere. I am sore today!
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:27 AM
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There is no way you guys should have been using a loader that couldn't easily handle the weight of those trailers. Well you learned a lesson, and got lucky you didn't hurt yourself seriously. I don't know the numbers but a lot of people get seriously injured or die from skidsteer accidents every year. Last year here a rental skid killed someone. They are extremely useful machines, but at the same time, dangerous!
It wasn't the weight per say, it was the fact it stuck out 8ft from the forks. If he had a weight kit on it, it probably wouldn't be an issue. I think the trailer only weighs about 1600lbs. But yes, lesson learned and in some one else's skid,lol.
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Hopefully it doesn't but if it does.....LET GO OF EVERYTHING!!!!!! it might still hit hard but at least it won't start flipping you everywhere. I am sore today!
first lesson of skidsteer training 101 at my shop, if you feel out of control, stop everything (if it flips anyway, it was already too far gone to do anything about).
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Are you not sappose to try and put the bucket down?
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my experience, stop first, and get the machine to stop rocking, then put bucket down, kind of depends on the scenario, but sometimes putting the bucket down just gets you rocking more.
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When in doubt, let go. End of story.
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Good to know.

Ill try never to be there.
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Thanks for the lessons and tips Brian....sorry we had to learn at your expense tho.
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