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Any commercial operation that has trucks on the road should have a copy of these (or something comparable) if only on the fleet manager's desk.

They provide UNDERSTANDABLE interpretations of the rules.

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Check Post 30. .. Crete is right (in NY anyway)

The Law only mentions needing a CDL with a trailer over 10k if the truck is under 26k but the combo is over 26k. It says nothing about being over 26k with a trailer under 10k.

It wouldn't surprise me if you got a ticket for this. No one including the police seem to know all the rules.They just want you to
Yes,Crete is right,he has to be! I taught him almost everything he knows about DOT,FMCSA,CDL's,NY fishing licensing,etc..VERY true about interpretation of all the regs out there.I'm of the belief that if you're almost at the point regarding your ''next'' higher weight classification,why not just get your Class A or B and be done with it?Not really that big of a deal and then you don't have to worry about the Barney Fifes out there.Also,would make it easier to pull the trigger if and or when you need to go to a bigger,heavier combo.
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wrong its combined GVWR of trailer and truck added together is over 26001 cdl needed in my state. .
You are a sucker if you paid that fine.
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These are great threads.....
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The cops around here will take which ever weight is lowest as the weight limit of the truck. So if the sticker GVWR is 12,500 lbs, and to save money we register the truck at 9500 then that's all it can weigh loaded.
I think whatever the weight on the hitch turns out to be, does count in the loaded weight of the truck. We've all seen trucks go up the road with way too much tongue weight on the trailer causing the truck to squat in the back end. I've never seen the cops disconnect the trailer before weighing the truck.
Around here in NJ county cops are notorious for pulling a fast one on us with the weight. What they do is weigh our truck and trailer entirely against the truck's GVWR. This practice is tolltaly bullsht cause what they're supposed to do is weigh just the truck with trailer attatched so the tungue weight it part of the the equation. By this standard everyone with a loaded truck, pulling a trailer is overweight. U won't ever get them to weigh the truck sepperately from the trailer. Only the trailer's tungue weight should count against the truck's GVWR!
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You are a sucker if you paid that fine.
Everyone around here is a sucker cause they just take a plea bargain & pay the fine without contesting the statute. That's why the county cops buy me get away with there bullsht loophole all the time. If I ever got weighted with my trailer, I know I would have my day in court!
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Around here in NJ county cops are notorious for pulling a fast one on us with the weight. What they do is weigh our truck and trailer entirely against the truck's GVWR. This practice is tolltaly bullsht cause what they're supposed to do is weigh just the truck with trailer attatched so the tungue weight it part of the the equation. By this standard everyone with a loaded truck, pulling a trailer is overweight. U won't ever get them to weigh the truck sepperately from the trailer. Only the trailer's tungue weight should count against the truck's GVWR!
That is total BS! Why haven't you or anyone else complained?I'll try my best to certainly stay out of NJ for sure.
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Yes,Crete is right,he has to be! I taught him almost everything he knows about DOT,FMCSA,CDL's,NY fishing licensing,etc..VERY true about interpretation of all the regs out there.I'm of the belief that if you're almost at the point regarding your ''next'' higher weight classification,why not just get your Class A or B and be done with it?Not really that big of a deal and then you don't have to worry about the Barney Fifes out there.Also,would make it easier to pull the trigger if and or when you need to go to a bigger,heavier combo.
Do you have a hazmat endorsement?
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Do you have a hazmat endorsement?
Same old Crete. Hazmat endorsement for the BS sometimes found here or for the environment?Never mind,point well taken.
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Hazmat endorsement???????.......Is that the same as a air brake endorsement????............
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This is disappointing because the truck can easily haul 4-5tons no problem without even flexing. No point in purchasing a 1 ton to haul heavy I guess, only upside is hauling mulch or grass clippings

Can't believe you didn't do your homework before buying that truck.

If hauling weight is an issue, then sell it off and step up to an F-450, or 550 and haul as much as you legally can.

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