Kind of comparing apples to oranges in a way. One truck is nicely equipped and an ex cab which will be nice for a DD while the other is a bare bones work truck. Given the choices, if they were the only two, I would go with the Ford no question. I would call your Chev dealer and ask them to "build" you a truck more similarly equipped to the Ford and see what price point they come in at. Also, if you are only looking at a 8' straight blade they're only about $4100 not installed. I would recommend installing yourself anyways.
If you really don't see yourself doing commercial snow removal why buy the 1 ton Ford. Yes you might use it some for snow in the winter, but you can use the 3/4 ton chevy with very close to the same results also. But you will be drive a 1 ton truck every day, even to the grocery store year round. Your MPG to just drive a 1 ton truck that gets less than 10mpg will be painful year round. I'd see what the dealer has in a 3/4 ton ford and then decide Chevy or Ford!
Only consider the 250 HD or the 2500 HD they are basically a 3/4 ton truck on a 1 ton chasis.
The Chevy is a Work Truck, but comes with power windows/doorlocks/mirrors, heated outside mirrors. I dont need all the bells and whistles as this is NOT a daily driver for me. I work for a major MSO here in the Northeast and am fortunate enough to have a company truck that I drive everyday.
The dealer for the chevy emailed me back again with a quote including the plow. $4,995 for the plow installed plus the 32k for the truck, not including tax, title, reg and fees. So I give it a buffer up to 39k. To me, a WT chevy with standard straight blade at 39k is too much money. I have yet to make it to the dealer to start the price war however I will be soon. I plan to offer them an "out the door price." I am going to shoot for 32k to start with plow.
I decided on the chevy rather than the ford F-350.
The Chevy is a Work Truck, but comes with power windows/doorlocks/mirrors, heated outside mirrors. I dont need all the bells and whistles as this is NOT a daily driver for me. I work for a major MSO here in the Northeast and am fortunate enough to have a company truck that I drive everyday.
The dealer for the chevy emailed me back again with a quote including the plow. $4,995 for the plow installed plus the 32k for the truck, not including tax, title, reg and fees. So I give it a buffer up to 39k. To me, a WT chevy with standard straight blade at 39k is too much money. I have yet to make it to the dealer to start the price war however I will be soon. I plan to offer them an "out the door price." I am going to shoot for 32k to start with plow.
I decided on the chevy rather than the ford F-350.
For the money the Ford is the way to go. $32k with the plow won't happen. Typically a work truck has rubber floors and no options at all...crank windows, am/fm radio, no AC, ect.
Agreed, however this WT has Power win/door locks and mirrors as well as AC. AM/FM is fine. It does have the rubber floors but typically we use some form of weather tec floor mats anyways....i could care less about carpeted floors...
Agreed, however this WT has Power win/door locks and mirrors as well as AC. AM/FM is fine. It does have the rubber floors but typically we use some form of weather tec floor mats anyways....i could care less about carpeted floors...
That is actually what my brother wants for work trucks...loaded up but with rubber floors. Just hard to justify that kind of money for a reg cab truck with rubber floors.
The Chevy is a Work Truck, but comes with power windows/doorlocks/mirrors, heated outside mirrors. I dont need all the bells and whistles as this is NOT a daily driver for me. I work for a major MSO here in the Northeast and am fortunate enough to have a company truck that I drive everyday.
The dealer for the chevy emailed me back again with a quote including the plow. $4,995 for the plow installed plus the 32k for the truck, not including tax, title, reg and fees. So I give it a buffer up to 39k. To me, a WT chevy with standard straight blade at 39k is too much money. I have yet to make it to the dealer to start the price war however I will be soon. I plan to offer them an "out the door price." I am going to shoot for 32k to start with plow.
I decided on the chevy rather than the ford F-350.
$32k or $39k for a some times used plow truck.................
DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN you must really have a high paying job.
Good lord, for a some times used plow truck I'd look at the $4000 used price range.
And buy a whole lot more toys with the money left over.
LOL I get what your saying. This truck would be our 2nd vechicle. Right now I have a 2005 Mazda 3 which is very small. I am 6'1 205lbs and the thing is like a pregnant roller skate, I hate it. Can hardly fit my two kids in the back. My in-laws and parents are older and can hardly shovel these days and I myself have a slipped disk in my lower back so even using a snowblower hurts me for a few weeks after a storm. The truck would plow out myself, in-laws and parents and possibly be used commerically with the local DPW, but not positive yet.
Dont get too wrapped up in the "snow plow" as this truck is my personal vechicle as well. Hence why I don't want to buy a cheap o.
I am a network engineer for a MSO here in Boston and I do pretty well.
LOL I get what your saying. This truck would be our 2nd vechicle. Right now I have a 2005 Mazda 3 which is very small. I am 6'1 205lbs and the thing is like a pregnant roller skate, I hate it. Can hardly fit my two kids in the back. My in-laws and parents are older and can hardly shovel these days and I myself have a slipped disk in my lower back so even using a snowblower hurts me for a few weeks after a storm. The truck would plow out myself, in-laws and parents and possibly be used commerically with the local DPW, but not positive yet.
Dont get too wrapped up in the "snow plow" as this truck is my personal vechicle as well. Hence why I don't want to buy a cheap o.
I am a network engineer for a MSO here in Boston and I do pretty well.
That makes a little more sense.
I thought it was like a 3rd vehicle that was gonna just sit around like my third vehicle does.
But it is a spare work truck as well for just in case some one runs a stop sign and takes out my main work truck like has happened.
Then I'm dead in the water until the insurance pays out because nobody likes to rent out "work" trucks that you can pull a trailer with for every day mowing etc.
Still if you don't want to go for the price near 40k with a plow I'm certain there are plenty of quality used vehicles too.
You just might have to shop outside of the north east with all of their salt to find one rust free.
I bought a 2000 F250, 4x4, diesel, 6spd, ext cab long bed out of TX last year with 96,500 miles for $10,500.
133,000 miles now and runs just as good as the day it rolled off the KY truck plant floor.
Then again buy the new one, one day a cheap axx like me will thank you for providing him with a quality (except its a gooberment motors) used work truck.
I thought it was like a 3rd vehicle that was gonna just sit around like my third vehicle does.
But it is a spare work truck as well for just in case some one runs a stop sign and takes out my main work truck like has happened.
Then I'm dead in the water until the insurance pays out because nobody likes to rent out "work" trucks that you can pull a trailer with for every day mowing etc.
Still if you don't want to go for the price near 40k with a plow I'm certain there are plenty of quality used vehicles too.
You just might have to shop outside of the north east with all of their salt to find one rust free.
I bought a 2000 F250, 4x4, diesel, 6spd, ext cab long bed out of TX last year with 96,500 miles for $10,500.
133,000 miles now and runs just as good as the day it rolled off the KY truck plant floor.
Then again buy the new one, one day a cheap axx like me will thank you for providing him with a quality (except its a gooberment motors) used work truck.
Im partial to GM mainly for service reason. They are what I know inside and out, they're the brand i've established a nationwide network of contacts for parts and help with, and the dealer that I deal with locally is very easy to deal with, allows me to use their scan tools and any other special tools when needed, plus the parts discounts due to the volume I go through. Plain and simple, GM is easier for me to deal with. No warranty hassles, everything is just simple.
In my limited experience with Ford, I haven't been as impressed with their service. We had a 99 powerstroke that should have been filed under the lemon law but we just wanted to get out of the thing. Everything that could break did. Major stuff, transmissions, turbos, injectors, transfercases, differentials etc etc. Fast forward to present day, my Fiance is die hard Ford as is her family. This made me take a second look at Ford. In the service department its still so/so. However, If I was just buying a vehicle for features, comfort and style, Ford would get my vote. Im comfy in an LTZ GM truck, but Ford's premium packages are all still much nicer. In addition to the extra leg room. One of our employees has a new F150 and Im amazed at the room in that thing. Two 6' 3" guys sit back to back comfortably. The big spread comes in the lower packages. The work trucks. GM really needs to step it up a bit there. We have a 2011 at the farm with the "pure pickup" package. Cloth seats, steering wheel radio, bluetooth power windows and such but thats it. I can't believe they only have express down for the driver window and no express up for any windows. My 2000 VW TDI Jetta has express windows and its an "economy" car with the lower package.
When it comes to the diesel powertrain and chassis though, you can't tear me away from GM. Worked on them since I started turning wrenches and they really impress me with the quality put into them. The issues have been minimal and the issues there have been GM has been good about standing behind. Thats one thing I always like with GM, they cover it. Ford trys to get away from it. They blame the customer. Its simple, for one they make more money/loose less money up front, and most importantly to the FMCSA and consumer reporting media, the numbers look better because they only report on warranty claims. In the case of the most recent 6.7L Powerstroke, many owners are getting the finger when their CP4 pumps go bad. Bosch made Ford's engineers sign a release stating the pumps engineering threshold was too close for the US fuel so they needed to do their own testing to make sure the pump would work, making Bosch not liable. GM is running the same pump and having the same issues but standing behind it at least. Speculation is that Fords big B20 push didn't help their issues. VW also uses that pump and has brought all of the cars back in to be detuned to lower pressures to reduce failures. The 6.7 is also having Ford's Famous rocker arm issues. I don't get it. They have been fighting broken rocker arms on the last two engines now this one? They still stamp them out of steel, the Duramax ones are forged and heat treated.
Ford's new transmission is holding a lot of power. I am no Allison fan boy. I think it's a great transmission but its greatest strength is its greatest weakness. Being a clutch to clutch transmissions makes it strong, simple, cool running and reliable. However clutch to clutch means it has to go to nuetral between each gear. That is why the guys adding power to them will slip them and put them into limp home mode. Its just like driving a manual transmission and revving the motor up then dumping the clutch. Over time it will wear it out. Now in stock form the ECM and TCM talk to each other and are tuned for each other and reduce the wear by doing the same thing an autoshift in a big rig does, defuel the motor, shift, then reapply power all as fast as possible without the operator noticing. This is the reason the Allisons sometimes seem sluggish too. There's only so fast you can push fluid to apply the next set of clutch packs.
GM's new chassis is built very well, they actually got the trucks off the ground which is love/hate for most people. Can't just reach into the bed anymore and every trailer you have to crank 3-5" higher. But you'll get stuck a lot less plowing and the ride when towing is great.
Now all thats fine and dandy but you're not looking for a diesel. In that case, I know nothing about either companies gas option. I think both have been pretty stout and nothing seems to jump out too terribly about either one.
For me it would be the GM for the service end of things and the IFS. Don't let the Ford and Dodge guys fool you, just because our tie rods break doesn't mean the rest of the system sucks, they're just sour about all of the tie rod ends and ball joints they have to put in to keep it going straight down the road, and the chiropractor bills.
If you could marry both trucks you would have a very nice truck. RAM is catching up it looks like, but I would let them catch up for awhile yet.
Sounds like you settled on the GMC as it is. I think a truck like yours is going to have just as much demand as a pure pickup truck will. Plenty of people out there want the new vinyl seats and rubber floor but with power windows and mirrors and such. I think GM's new vinyl is way nicer than their older leather seats were to be honest. I personally would kill to have a loaded truck with a rubber floor. I'm not a dirty messy person, I'm a neat freak, but to me carpet is just too hard to keep clean. I spend so much time keeping the rest of the cab clean the last thing I want to do is worry about mounting a footbrush to the running board. Not to mention the musty smell from all of the snow on your boots. If you dont stay up on cleaning that nice carpet will turn into a solid lumpy mat. Our 02 GMC is that way now as is are two of our semis that sit in harsh conditions.
As long as you have good service from both dealers, I don't think you can go too wrong.
The days of negotiating prices drastically are fading away. However you still can get more off a new car or truck than anything else out there it seems.
The Chevy is a Work Truck, but comes with power windows/doorlocks/mirrors, heated outside mirrors. I dont need all the bells and whistles as this is NOT a daily driver for me. I work for a major MSO here in the Northeast and am fortunate enough to have a company truck that I drive everyday.
The dealer for the chevy emailed me back again with a quote including the plow. $4,995 for the plow installed plus the 32k for the truck, not including tax, title, reg and fees. So I give it a buffer up to 39k. To me, a WT chevy with standard straight blade at 39k is too much money. I have yet to make it to the dealer to start the price war however I will be soon. I plan to offer them an "out the door price." I am going to shoot for 32k to start with plow.
I decided on the chevy rather than the ford F-350.
if you already consider the chevy to be White Trash then go with the ford
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