22 Acre ( how to bid)

[dfd9]

Originally Posted by PhilFromErie

Mine or the original poster?

OP.

[G.Landscape]

Originally Posted by PhilFromErie

its hard for anyone to say anything on it without a picture, but if its a wide open lot a loader and a hoe can do it I'd think with a truck to help. May be even one loader with a truck if your loader is really on the ball. what it would go for in my market has nothing to do with where your at but....I'd say $2,500 per push and about a G to salt

I agree with this...

[JerryA31]

If you can average the industry standard of 1 acre = 1 hour couldn't you just multiply 22 x your rate per hour? In my market that would be about $1,750 to $2,000 per push.

[MatthewG]

I see numbers all over the place

I just bid an 18 acre warehouse site, all open, flat, concrete

bid it like this
0-1.9
2-3.9
4-5.9
etc
12+ is then by the hour - I charge $500 an hour, that is for 2 wheel loaders and maybe one truck for the tight spots

Salt is separate and I figured it max at 10 tons, another guy said it would take 20 (go fish)

[ryde307]

For the guys stating x per push. How do you push 22 acres of a 24hr facility consistently enough to give per push pricing?
Not saying your wrong trying to understand. Per push is not common here.
I would think something like this would be per event, per hr or seasonal.

[PhilFromErie]

Yea, for sure seasonal would be better but some times people just want per push you know. On smaller lots its easy per push but ones this big in a storm you might run the drive lanes 4 times, clean the entrances 6 times and do the lot twice. We had this situation before and i pretty much just billed what ever I felt was fair whenever we plowed and they never complained. I wouldn't count on saying "welp we just got done plowing the whole lot, guess we can start on our second plow now" It just never works that way with lots this size.

[dfd9]

Originally Posted by ryde307

For the guys stating x per push. How do you push 22 acres of a 24hr facility consistently enough to give per push pricing?
Not saying your wrong trying to understand. Per push is not common here.
I would think something like this would be per event, per hr or seasonal.

How do you determine a seasonal price without determining what one push would take time wise?

Seems like per event would be far more difficult than a per push.

I will readily admit to knowing nothing about determining a per event price, but it would seem like one could really screw themselves on a 22 acre site with per event pricing.

[Masssnowfighter]

With 20 acres plus, there is no such thing as per push. Its not like a driveway where you can plow it and come back 4 hours later and plow it again. You will be pushing non stop from the first flake to the last flake, if you are lucky you might be ahead of it enough to go take a quick coffee break

[ryde307]

Originally Posted by Masssnowfighter

With 20 acres plus, there is no such thing as per push. Its not like a driveway where you can plow it and come back 4 hours later and plow it again. You will be pushing non stop from the first flake to the last flake, if you are lucky you might be ahead of it enough to go take a quick coffee break

This is basically what I was getting at.
When figuring a seasonal we come up with a base push price 1-3" and calculate from there.
My wonder was how do you push 22 acres and turn around do it again and again in 1 storm to bill out multiple pushes? Unless you have alot of equipment dedicated to the site so push it in 2 hrs.