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Old 11-19-2012, 06:41 PM
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2x4 for sure. I dont need the extra weight and problems with 4x4. Keep it simple. My current 450 is 2wd and never has gave me a problem plowing.

It will be a custom ordered truck (if i do decided on one) because it will be a custom paint.

Im looking at a extended cab with a 60" CA to help out with the turning radius. Im never in the back seat so i dont care about the leg room. Plus ive always liked the look of extended cabs.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:42 PM
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Sounds like you want the 450 more than you need the 450. A 350 DRW will more than do what you are describing.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:45 PM
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I broke the hoist on the 450, i have pictures of the leaf springs in my phone because i had to show a buddy the arc, the loader operator has seriously said " dude look at your springs, im not putting more in it"

Trust me, not my first rodeo, not my first truck. Ive had light duty trucks and ive paid the repair bills.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:04 AM
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Bought my 95 F350 CC 4x4 from a buddy who got it a few years before from a Snowbird. Paid $7,000 with 101,000 miles on it. I have 160,000 on it now and have put a set of glow plugs, 2 injectors and a clutch in it. Pretty good for nearly 60,000 miles i put on it. I am going to install a set of slightly higher flow injectors this winter. This will cost around $1,100. I have a slight miss when cold. If your worried, put the difference in payment in a savings account and you will have enough $$$$ in a few years to buy another. Go over here and look at this thread. http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/...35/index3.html Highway Prisoner had nearly 860,000 miles on a 7.3 when he sent it to pasture. He had over 400K on a BTS tranny!

Here is his list at 684,000 miles: Originally Posted by HighwayPrisoner View Post
684,377 miles. 1 set of injectors, 2 waterpumps, 3 alternators, 1 starter, 2 CPS, 1 IPR,2 sets glow plugs, 2GPR, 1 turbo, 1 Tranny, fixed for good with a BTS, u-joints, 2 sets diff bearings,1 fuel pump,2 sets of rotors, and pads front and rear, 4 sets of rancho shocks f&r, gotta love lifetime warranties, ICP sensor, and Preparation H.

Oh, And is far as your 4x4 comment, we could not survive without a 4WD here. Hell some of the stuff i plow i put chains on my 4x4 to get it done! I have not done a thing to my front axle other than a u-joint last winter with 140K on the odometer.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:10 AM
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We've got 3 2012 v10 E-450's here at work. Compared to our 08's with the same motor, they are way better. Not nearly as jumpy with the throttle, alot smoother and seem to pull a little harder. Our closest comparison to a diesel would be our 08's and 09's with a 6.0L (09 E-450's still came with a 6.0). They keep very accurate records on our fuel usage, maintenance, etc...in our case by the time we figure in the extra cost of fuel for diesel, our cost per mile is about the same. Dont start a diesel vs gas war here, like i said, IN OUR CASE its about a wash. I personally prefer to drive the diesel, but the v10 is alot easier to work on (and ALOT cheaper!!) I also believe they have the spark plug issue resolved too, had to do some plug inserts on our 08's, not that its a big deal, but its a day of downtime.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:25 AM
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We've got 3 2012 v10 E-450's here at work. Compared to our 08's with the same motor, they are way better. Not nearly as jumpy with the throttle, alot smoother and seem to pull a little harder. Our closest comparison to a diesel would be our 08's and 09's with a 6.0L (09 E-450's still came with a 6.0). They keep very accurate records on our fuel usage, maintenance, etc...in our case by the time we figure in the extra cost of fuel for diesel, our cost per mile is about the same. Dont start a diesel vs gas war here, like i said, IN OUR CASE its about a wash. I personally prefer to drive the diesel, but the v10 is alot easier to work on (and ALOT cheaper!!) I also believe they have the spark plug issue resolved too, had to do some plug inserts on our 08's, not that its a big deal, but its a day of downtime.
The only difference I'd see is the new 6.7 is better on fuel than the 6.0's and maintenance/repairs is better (so far) as well. Plus at this point and time, most of it would be under warranty in regards to repairs.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:49 AM
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The only difference I'd see is the new 6.7 is better on fuel than the 6.0's and maintenance/repairs is better (so far) as well. Plus at this point and time, most of it would be under warranty in regards to repairs.
Yea i have no experience with the 6.4 or the 6.7. So as far as mileage i cant compare. Our 09's have no emissions on them either. Upfront cost is always more with a diesel, but you get a better return when it come so resale. Maintenance is more but you can go longer intervals. In our case maintenance is more because with idot regulations, everything is on the same maintenance interval. So our diesels get serviced every 3000miles, the same as our gassers. Outside of popping some plugs out, our v10's havent had any major issues. Our 6.0's have the normal issues, egr, hpop, oil coolers, ficm, etc etc. I wish we could have more 7.3's. One has 270k, another 240k and the last 220k and none of them have ever been touched! Only one of our 6.0's (out of the 6 - 6.0's we have) made it past 100k without an issue! I think its sitting around 108k, so far not a single problem yet.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:01 PM
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We have an 08 450 extended cab with 4:88 rear and the V 10. Only issuies are the A/c keeps leaking down and the manifold bolts rusted away other than that its a turn the key and go rig. The new 6.7 is nice so far but at 7 k per year I would go gas. Towing a 20' pace summit with 3 lazers we see 7 mpg running a grass route. The truck runs the same loaded or not trailer or not. Empty highway we see just over 8.5. Our next stake body will have another v 10 with an aluminum body
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:54 PM
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Yea i have no experience with the 6.4 or the 6.7. So as far as mileage i cant compare. Our 09's have no emissions on them either. Upfront cost is always more with a diesel, but you get a better return when it come so resale. Maintenance is more but you can go longer intervals. In our case maintenance is more because with idot regulations, everything is on the same maintenance interval. So our diesels get serviced every 3000miles, the same as our gassers. Outside of popping some plugs out, our v10's havent had any major issues. Our 6.0's have the normal issues, egr, hpop, oil coolers, ficm, etc etc. I wish we could have more 7.3's. One has 270k, another 240k and the last 220k and none of them have ever been touched! Only one of our 6.0's (out of the 6 - 6.0's we have) made it past 100k without an issue! I think its sitting around 108k, so far not a single problem yet.
Sad part is, 3,000 mile intervals is almost required with those 6.0's. Good info though regarding the comparison between the two (diesel/gas) from your fleet.

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We have an 08 450 extended cab with 4:88 rear and the V 10. Only issuies are the A/c keeps leaking down and the manifold bolts rusted away other than that its a turn the key and go rig. The new 6.7 is nice so far but at 7 k per year I would go gas. Towing a 20' pace summit with 3 lazers we see 7 mpg running a grass route. The truck runs the same loaded or not trailer or not. Empty highway we see just over 8.5. Our next stake body will have another v 10 with an aluminum body
What is 7k per year? Is that the added cost of diesel or payments, etc? Do you have a comparison of fuel mileage between the two, seems like you have the closest comparison to what the OP is asking.
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:39 PM
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He said they would only put 7000 miles on it per year
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