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Old 10-16-2012, 07:01 PM
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And why would I keep plowing?

If you fail to provide the first required service of the snow season, USM will not issue any payment to you
on any open or future invoice.
 For example, if the first snow event of the season occurs on January 20, 2013 and you fail to
perform that service, USM will not issue any payment on your invoice for January service and/or
any invoices for the months of February, March, April, and May.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:05 PM
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And if you accept those terms you can be called? Out of business.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:43 PM
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Wow,

You work for some tuffies....... I bet they don't let their employees drink the coffee either.....
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:50 PM
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Wow,

You work for some tuffies....... I bet they don't let their employees drink the coffee either.....

No coffee??....
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:41 PM
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And why would you fail to live up to your job of providing plowing service?
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:45 PM
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I don't get it... is a a cute way of saying if you don't perform the first snowfall you will be fired and won't collect Jan, Feb,or March payments?
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:47 PM
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Don't forget your pre-season inspection or to have "USM and it's customers" listed as holder or to call the IVR system before, after, and during every event or have your invoice dated after the 1st or take all required photos and submit them with every invoice or ??? OR ??? OR!!! The HELL with all of that!! Thats what I said!! Never have to worry about IVR's ever again!
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:49 PM
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Love it. so if they owe you on invoices from summer you still aren't getting paid. I wonder how many guys have called that bluff in court. I don't see that holding up at all.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:04 PM
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I put a bid in on one of their properties this year. Tomorrow they are to announce "notice to award". I bid it a few thousand higher than their "proposed" amount. Part of me wants it, most of me doesn't!
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We moved on from USM years ago .We do not wish to work for them. Best thing we ever did . Much better to work for the locals
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:12 PM
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I put a bid in on one of their properties this year. Tomorrow they are to announce "notice to award". I bid it a few thousand higher than their "proposed" amount. Part of me wants it, most of me doesn't!
Make sure you have all your salt paid for and you own your own equipment. First check should be in your mail box end of January beginning of February. Thats providing all your paper work is in order.

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Old 10-16-2012, 10:43 PM
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I've often wonder why those that won't bid on work for USM or any national because of being screwed wouldn't just put in a lowball bid that they win and drag out sending in the paperwork. When they call you to get the contract signed and returned say you have mailed it, my fax machine is broken, what's the address again, sorry let me send it again, anything to buy more time until they are left holding the bag. In other words do what they do to us. If a few hundred of us snow providers did this to them it would be great and cause great pain to these nationals. Think how fun the revenge would be.

It would cause all the nationals to start earlier in the season and respect those that they can count on.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:45 PM
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Hmm....why did said plowing company fail to provide the service in the first place? I guess if you miss it the first time, don't bother coming back.
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:15 PM
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Don't miss the first service and I guess you don't have to worry about it.
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:32 PM
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ferandino has the exact same language in their contract
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What if you don't have conformation of the contract? or they "lose" the paper work? The wording of this is such that they are looking to screw you over, they could cover their butts by saying something like "if a service is missed USM reserves the right to immediately dismiss the contractor..." but they don't say that do they, anyone want to take a guess as to why???? because they are hoping you work your butt off and plow for two more month then they can not pay you based on this clause.....
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One of my issues is with the whole picture\calling in\etc BS. Call me old fashioned, but for a lot longer than these jackwagons have been around, my company has been providing plowing services without pictures and phone calls and faxes and invoices within 30 seconds...............Seems to me, the amount of time I have been in business should stand for a lot more than a phone call, etc.

You gotta be nuts to jump through all the hoops these morons require.
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One of my issues is with the whole picture\calling in\etc BS. Call me old fashioned, but for a lot longer than these jackwagons have been around, my company has been providing plowing services without pictures and phone calls and faxes and invoices within 30 seconds...............Seems to me, the amount of time I have been in business should stand for a lot more than a phone call, etc.

You gotta be nuts to jump through all the hoops these morons require.
Don't work for them then.

Suppose maybe the customer requires this data? The customer that has to look at 300 sites at a time?

It's not the reputable contractor that has always provided great service, with or without pictures in the past that has caused this. It is the children that think they can plow and have no idea how to run a business that have caused such a need. Just about every National requires this or has brought it on of late, in my experience.
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Thats just not true. I went above and beyond fulfilling every aspect of my snow contract with this big national. There was a slip and fall at the big box I was servicing. It happened on the sidewalk, just outside the door. My contract stated that store personell would be responsible for sidewalks during business hours. It didn't matter. The store denied liability, the national denied liability, and my insurance company denied liability. The national with held over 20,000 they owed me, and denied giving me any future contracts until it was settled. To sum it up, you cannot say it is always incompetent people performing substandard work. Thats just not the case.
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did you get it figured out yet northernsweeper?
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