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Old 06-27-2012, 09:53 PM
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I had that attachment free for a week. Cant beat that price. I had plans to rent a mini x from battlefield but would have had to pay $100+ and only have it for a 8hr day or something plus it would have to be picked up at 7 and be back next morn or before 6pm same day.

If I had a more serious need I would have gone rental like you suggest. What is the smallest bobcat brand? 40"? There are not too many small mini mini xs around at the rental shops. This attachment fits into a 36" gate not many mini xs in that size around.

$400 for the week. How much for a mini x for a week from Hertz in Etob there?
Not that I have experience on either, but I could see the range of how far it swings and having to move the machine being 2 killers of production with the attachment. Free is always good, so it was a great way to test drive the thing. You couldnt just use the loader bucket to dig that? I only looked at the pics on my phone so I can't exactly tell how wide and deep you're going.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:26 PM
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Mini ex here in my yard is 38", with the gate and hinges removed, it will squeeze through most gates, and dig 7-8' deep. If a difference of 1-200 on a rental price of a job makes that big of a difference, I do have to kind of wonder about the pricing on a job.

I will agree owning versus renting is a great difference in convenience.

The difference in production and versatility between an excavator and backhoe type unit is huge though too. Every now and then I end up running a backhoe again, and it always reminds me of how awkward and clumsy they really are.

I do hope these machines work well for you guys, and hey, every application is different.
Well I don't know how you can widen a 36" gate to 38" most fences are crap and you do not want to be taking sections out only to have to repair the rest of the fence.

Some of us do not have the luxury of big gravy jobs or just get jobs handed to us and told to do them. The jobs you and grant do are totally different from what I do and possibly others.I am probably cheaper then you guys but I'm not the cheapest guy out there I know that. There is always someone cheaper. Wish I had the luxury to turn down some of them cheaper jobs. $100 to $200 out of my pocket on a possibly tight job is not something I really want to incur. I'm sure if you could put 100 to 200 in your pocket vs someone else you would?

Would I buy the attachment no probably not. would I drive to dundas to rent it no probably not. I will call you and Grant to do it for $150 or $200

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Not that I have experience on either, but I could see the range of how far it swings and having to move the machine being 2 killers of production with the attachment. Free is always good, so it was a great way to test drive the thing. You couldnt just use the loader bucket to dig that? I only looked at the pics on my phone so I can't exactly tell how wide and deep you're going.
Maybe but all the river stone would have come up with it also. Maybe u missed the free free to try section? Think that area was 2' wide and bucket is 3'. It does not swing 360 but does 180 which worked out fine. You have to move it every 4' but there was 3 of us on the job 1 on machine 2 wheelbarrow so not like it was such a huge inconvenience of time being wasted. 1 person was standing around waiting anyhow. Guess I need two powered wheelbarrows now. I also had to dig up along side of a raised deck to prep a base to install 6x6's as well as beside a foundation.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:51 PM
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Duno how people let there yards get like this. Doing the house adjacent to this one his grass was 3' tall in the back had to knock it down with the trimmer. Should have sold him a new fence so I could have used a 38" mini x in the backyard.

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Old 06-27-2012, 11:08 PM
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Most chain link gates measure 36", opening width is around 39-40" between posts is what I was referring to. Wood it's a different scenario in every case as they are often custom built, and have stops etc coming into the opening.

I didn't say that keeping costs in check is a bad thing, I said that the difference of $100 in pricing makes me wonder. Sure, if it's a $100 dollar job, and it will cost an extra $100, then there's an issue, but on a job that small, a minimum fee, or a couple of those same labourers with hand tools should be able to do the same work for a similar price.

BTW, for the record, since I started working with Grant on a lot of jobs the last year or so was about the same time as I found the forum, most of you don't know my previous history. I've had my mini -ex ten years or so, and did a lot of it part time when I was still employed full time. Most of my work was jobs under $500, so I know exactly where and when to watch on tight costs and so on, especially for small jobs. It was also where I was really learning the basics of the business, and knowing now what I do, I would have made a lot better profit margin than I did on many of those jobs. Some of that would be through changed pricing and quoting, some on efficiency and productivity, some on knowing better ways to upsell.

Every tool has it's uses, I have no real experience with the Dingo's themselves, but having seen a few of the MT's in use, I have always been rather impressed with what they are capable of. They are an awesome tool for a lot of small area work that a lot of you guys get into, no argument there. (Sorry Dean!!)

I do hope that they work well for both you guys, and that they are a great addition to your businesses. As to a free trial, definitely something to take advantage of, we all like free don't we?

The patio looks pretty nice, but my knees are cringing with the thoughts of laying any interlocking right now!!!
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:02 AM
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Hey guys. Hope you are all having a great summer.

NIce machines guys. Here's a couple pics of two of our latest additions.(just after they were delivered)..the mini is going back for a thumb installation next week.

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Old 06-28-2012, 10:14 AM
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Grassman, settle down scooter. I don't really care if you dig with a soup spoon. I simply offered the advice that the money spent buying a backhoe attachment and digging inefficiently could be better spent on rentals or a micro mini (as small as 26" btw) I figured you were demoing it and was trying to offer advice (I do dig holes in tight access every day its kinda my thing).

And cool your jets on the "jobs being handed to me", "gravy jobs" etc... We bust a$$ all season, get our jobs the same way everyone else does. We do tend to often have high priced clientelle, but that's because we do high end work so that's who is willing to pay. We work hard to build and keep our client base. Not sure where you picked up the impression that we're spoon fed or have an abundance of money that we burn through inefficiently.

I dont want to join the argument about how your job could have been arranged with the same money and same people and been easier/more proffitable. It doesn't concern me and doesn't affect my bank account. Backoes never have and never will be as efficient as a similar size machines with turntables. That's fact not opinion. Do with it as you will, but leave me and what you think our company does out of it.
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:31 AM
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:28 AM
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No one has given me a reason to dig a hole yet
When it comes to gravy I say extra sloppy

Wife almost killed me this am. We were early for our flight in buffalo so we stopped at the mall and got breakfast. I left her lights on and had to find someone to give us a boost. Nice that mall security has a boost pack. Looks like we have said good bye to te bad luck now. All good luck from here. Wonder if she would like a new battery for our anniversary

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Use to asking for a boost. Tranny. Tow. Ride. Hahahaha
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:50 AM
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I bet if you buy her an interstate, she'll let you buy a ford! Cheap out on a no name, and she'll be so mad your next christmas present will be another new dodge!
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:36 PM
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I killed both my batteries yesterday...and blamed my wife. She gave me a plug in cooler for my lunch and I left it pluged in on a 3 hr lawn, parked on the road with my whirlies on....ooopps! Luckily my zero turn was enough to jump it.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:45 PM
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So is it the heat making some of you so grumpy. You need some thicker skin.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:54 PM
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:12 PM
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Not at all! Looks like there will be some iron at my place this weekend, two excavator's, a dozer, and a loader. Going to be playing in the dirt! Best part is they'll be here doing work for me at no cost. Just remember guys, manure is valuable........
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:18 PM
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I killed both my batteries yesterday...and blamed my wife. She gave me a plug in cooler for my lunch and I left it pluged in on a 3 hr lawn, parked on the road with my whirlies on....ooopps! Luckily my zero turn was enough to jump it.
Now on my old DODGE the cooler goes off with the ignition! Only runs if ignition is turned on.....I guess you had her going?
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:24 PM
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Now on my old DODGE the cooler goes off with the ignition! Only runs if ignition is turned on.....I guess you had her going?
My Chev always has power to the lighter plug. Its good because I can charge a cell phone with the truck locked but I guess markus was working it a little harder than just a cell charger
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:04 AM
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My Chev always has power to the lighter plug. Its good because I can charge a cell phone with the truck locked but I guess markus was working it a little harder than just a cell charger
haha! I can eat...........
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:43 AM
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My Chev always has power to the lighter plug. Its good because I can charge a cell phone with the truck locked but I guess markus was working it a little harder than just a cell charger
All power get's cut after 20 mins on a Dodge, on the new one it"s programmable how long you want to keep them going.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:56 PM
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All power get's cut after 20 mins on a Dodge, on the new one it"s programmable how long you want to keep them going.
Is that the new warranty period.....?
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Old 07-01-2012, 05:15 AM
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