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Old 01-22-2012, 09:06 AM
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The original question was "what color strobe is legal in MA"

The answer and the only answer is AMBER

You can try to justify it any way you want but the answer will not change.

To say they don't enforce it is just incorrect.

I have had a number of customers over they years that we told them not to put the lights in the tail lights yet they insisted and would it you know they come back after getting a ticket and to have us change them.

One of the largest road construction companies in MA was working for the state on the highway and was issued tickets for all of their trucks by the detail office assigned to the job for having hideaways behind their RED taillights.

In addition to an installer I am also a Police Officer, there is an entire pamphlet that is dedicated to warning light enforcement available to police officers and in the academy that told us it if we wanted to we could fine $300 for the car or $300 per bulb.

It is enforceable and does get enforced, might not be so much during the storms but to say it doesn't get enforced is just wrong.

Just my $.02
Exaclty... I still dont understand why people feel the need to have other color lights...
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:23 PM
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I keep the amber, so Im legal, but around here in my town the cops know almost everyone, as long as your in town and not being a dumba** like the guy I saw in Mansfield get pulled over doing dohnuts in the middle of the road next to the train station, they wont cite you. Never heard of anyone within my town get cited. Its a small town, and most people know all the cops. Maybe elsewhere they do it.
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Old 01-24-2012, 04:27 AM
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In addition to an installer I am also a Police Officer, there is an entire pamphlet that is dedicated to warning light enforcement available to police officers and in the academy that told us it if we wanted to we could fine $300 for the car or $300 per bulb.

It is enforceable and does get enforced, might not be so much during the storms but to say it doesn't get enforced is just wrong.
Then you're probably familiar with the subject that is listed on the cite that I posted or at least the case. Another dumb ass that didn't "Get it"

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I keep the amber, so Im legal, but around here in my town the cops know almost everyone, as long as your in town and not being a dumba** like the guy I saw in Mansfield get pulled over doing dohnuts in the middle of the road next to the train station, they wont cite you. Never heard of anyone within my town get cited. Its a small town, and most people know all the cops. Maybe elsewhere they do it.

Don't let "No Chance" Lance see you. He'll get you per bulb.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:16 AM
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Then you're probably familiar with the subject that is listed on the cite that I posted or at least the case. Another dumb ass that didn't "Get it"




Don't let "No Chance" Lance see you. He'll get you per bulb.
Or chan.....they are both around the area that he is talking about and either one would write his own mother a ticket. It's more dot cops than it is town cops. Either one can and will give you a ticket though.
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Old 01-24-2012, 01:10 PM
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Don't let "No Chance" Lance see you. He'll get you per bulb.
You must be from the area! That guy is hard to get away from. My dad had a cap on his truck that had just been lettered (same day he bought it) and was on his way to the RMV when Lance got him, he let my dad go since he was on his way to the RMV. Got lucky.
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Old 01-24-2012, 01:11 PM
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Or chan.....they are both around the area that he is talking about and either one would write his own mother a ticket. It's more dot cops than it is town cops. Either one can and will give you a ticket though.
I've never heard of him, but in Norton watch for Dennet (spelled wrong maybe?). People say hes Nortons "No Chance Lance" but I havent had a run in with the cops yet. (Knock on wood)
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:29 PM
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I live in the Taunton area and have amber and white lighting. The laws do state that only amber lights are allowed, no white or red. The only white I have is one single dash light and hide aways. Then again, officers could be lenient with me since I sell them their LED warning lights for their POVs lol
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:45 PM
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I live in the Taunton area and have amber and white lighting. The laws do state that only amber lights are allowed, no white or red. The only white I have is one single dash light and hide aways. Then again, officers could be lenient with me since I sell them their LED warning lights for their POVs lol
Now thats a helpful thing to have! If you have a store PM me and maybe Ill stop in next time I need some lighting
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Now thats a helpful thing to have! If you have a store PM me and maybe Ill stop in next time I need some lighting
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:15 PM
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You must be from the area! That guy is hard to get away from. My dad had a cap on his truck that had just been lettered (same day he bought it) and was on his way to the RMV when Lance got him, he let my dad go since he was on his way to the RMV. Got lucky.
I don`t get it ,whats illegal about a cap?
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Old 01-28-2012, 11:52 AM
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I don`t get it ,whats illegal about a cap?
Oops! Forgot to say that he didnt have the commercial plates on yet, thats why he was on his way to RMV. Can have Ads on a vehicle without a commercial plate (unless its a bumper sticker or a tire cover type object)
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Old 01-30-2012, 03:29 PM
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The original question was "what color strobe is legal in MA"

The answer and the only answer is AMBER

You can try to justify it any way you want but the answer will not change.

To say they don't enforce it is just incorrect.

I have had a number of customers over they years that we told them not to put the lights in the tail lights yet they insisted and would it you know they come back after getting a ticket and to have us change them.

One of the largest road construction companies in MA was working for the state on the highway and was issued tickets for all of their trucks by the detail office assigned to the job for having hideaways behind their RED taillights.

In addition to an installer I am also a Police Officer, there is an entire pamphlet that is dedicated to warning light enforcement available to police officers and in the academy that told us it if we wanted to we could fine $300 for the car or $300 per bulb.

It is enforceable and does get enforced, might not be so much during the storms but to say it doesn't get enforced is just wrong.

Just my $.02
I have read the laws over and over regarding the color of warning lights allowed in Mass. I know that only amber is allowed, however it is not really enforced too well in my area (Taunton, MA). For example, TMLP (Taunton Municiple Lighting Plant) trucks run amber/white and amber/red and red/red LEDs to the rear all of the time. I find it funny how TMLP can have their trucks outfitted with all illegal colored lighting and have no issues, however there are cops in the area who have no problems giving plow guys tickets for hide aways in red taillights. I don't get it..
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:03 PM
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FYI to all Massachusetts plowers with amber lights! My new Red light permit (which I use to get back to the station for call back when we have a fire or need for extra guys for an incident a.k.a. OT)
states at the top something to the order of " RED/BLUE/AMBER light permit" and in the comments for me it says" red light permit'. Basically it's a typical registration document with a few changes. It's upon us.....look out......don't be suprised if you get harassed for your amber lights. Mass has required a permit for quite some time but it looks like it may be time for them to enforce it for extra revenue.
P.S. All the hide aways you have in your red tail lights or white to the front marker lights don't fly and are considered illegal in The Commonwealth.
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:26 AM
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Let's face it, most cops either don't know or have something other to worry about and the ones that bust your stones over it are those who were picked on in school and want to get back at the world. And the Democratic Republic of Massachusetts is getting worse by the day... Case-in-point, one of our city cops stopped one of our ambulances for a single rear-facing blue, he ranted about how it's illegal or some such thing because it's fire apparatus, we operate 5 ambulances and an engine with a single rear-facing blue light...

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I have read the laws over and over regarding the color of warning lights allowed in Mass. I know that only amber is allowed, however it is not really enforced too well in my area (Taunton, MA). For example, TMLP (Taunton Municiple Lighting Plant) trucks run amber/white and amber/red and red/red LEDs to the rear all of the time. I find it funny how TMLP can have their trucks outfitted with all illegal colored lighting and have no issues, however there are cops in the area who have no problems giving plow guys tickets for hide aways in red taillights. I don't get it..
Blue "official" plates don't usually need to worry about the colors of their lights.
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Or chan.....they are both around the area that he is talking about and either one would write his own mother a ticket.

Or throw the Book at a Judge's Son LOL
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Just.02 from a mass motor vehicle inspector (not that that really means jack) but we were tought you can have amber on the vehicle HOWEVER (and why we were taught this i dont know) they can only be on while actively plowing. IN other words put them on your truck fine, use them whileplowing fine, have them on while on a public way and not a contractor or subcontractor for the state or munincipality ILLEGAL. Just a heads up
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Not trying to bring the thread back but its a little funny if you dig into the state laws more its against the law for a poilce car to have forward facing red lights and for a fire truck to have forward facing blue lights nd both I have seen many times. So when the cop is busting your balls about your lights mention his!

You guys mention you cant use clear but the wording says other colors.. Is clear considered a color?
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:31 PM
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Definitely mention this for a guaranteed gig! Amber is all you can have in Mass.!!!! End of story.
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Definitely mention this for a guaranteed gig! Amber is all you can have in Mass.!!!! End of story.
I understand but its just silly to begin with. I know dozens of guys with clear strobes and none have ever had any issues at all doing plowing or construction.

Another issue that ticks me off is volunteer fire fighters who are not allowed to pass people or go though lights to get to the station or even calls. I totally understand the safety factor involved but lets figure this one out.. no firefighters at station.. call comes in now they need to drive to the station like a regular car and then go to the call. With out a doubt they should be able to pass cars and go though lights safely. I always pull over when I see them and let them go. Living in NH alot of towns depend on themand that puts us at a disadvantage already never mind slowing them down.

I bring this up because I know alot of firefighters get their balls busted for going a little to fast and even not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign at 2am in the morning in a town with a few thousand people! Just plain stupid! Some police think they are super heros and can handle everything and anything that happens even fire calls.

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