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Old 01-30-2004, 10:52 AM
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gmc 6500 anyone?

just wondering if anyone is plowing with a 6500....i got a call the other day from a large contract that turned us down in the fall but now they want us to handle there account for the rest of the season....it is a huge money maker for us in the summer so we are going to be forced to accept the job.

i was looking into 98-99 gmc 6500's, which are all the remarketed penske one way rental trucks. they are very sharp looking and from what i here are built to last.

i talked to a guy who has a couple cab/chasis and can build me the truck i want in 5 days...the truck i want has a 10' boss straight, 10' high dump body, central hydro, tailgate spreader. all the trucks have 454 gas, allison 545 auto, GVWR 25,950.

Just wondering if anyone has owned a truck like this and if anyone can give me any imput. would love to see some pics if anyone has any too.

The company wants $33,900 for the truck which will bw completely upfitted. heres a pic of a truck that the company has done..only diffeance is that it had a western plow instead of the boss.
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Old 01-30-2004, 11:26 AM
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Try a JPEG file.

Not only do I hate .bmp, yours doesn't seem to work.
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Old 01-30-2004, 11:44 AM
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It worked with a little hacking, but the resolution is horrible, it looked like a truck made of legos. From what I can see it's a nice truck.

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Old 01-30-2004, 11:59 AM
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sorry guys it was sent to me as a bmp. and i have to clue how to change it.

it was also huge so i had to resize it to make it fit...sorry
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Old 01-30-2004, 12:07 PM
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The picture worked fine for me. Looks like a nice truck.
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Old 01-30-2004, 01:27 PM
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thats a big truck and with a gvwr over 26,000 lbs you will need a CDL. If you plow only road or big lots that should work good but it will be a pain to do and driveways.
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Old 01-30-2004, 01:38 PM
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Here it is LEGO-IZED

Best I could do!
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Old 01-30-2004, 02:03 PM
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the gvwr is 25950 just under cdl...and do this truck will never see a small lot...acctually it is going to handle my entire salting route and its going to plow and salt 7 acres of black top at one loacation on a plow night
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Old 01-30-2004, 02:19 PM
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Dont go gasoline on that size truck unless you own stock in Exxon
I had a gas truck that size with a 454 I sold it after 6 months it was getting 5 miles per gallon empty. My 93 International diesel gets 15 MPG empty .If you are going to be spending that money for used why not go new and get lower financing and a truck with a full warranty. There is a lot of room to deal on new big trucks.

Another thing to look into are the hook lifts or mini dumpster set ups. They give you a lot of versitility. A good friend bought a brand new International DT 466 diesel auto with the hook lift system and 4 bodies for $62,000. Renting the dumpsters is a sideline that actually has paid for the truck and driver.
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go with a diesel you might also think about snow removal with that truck you could get $125.00 per hr with that truck so thats over and above of plowing
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Seems like a lot of money for a used (how many miles?) truck.

I don't see any reason to steer clear of the gas engine, but for that price, it ought to have a diesel.

Is the dump new?

Plow is what 5 grand, so your talking $29K for a dump truck with a gas engine and unknown miles/maintenance.

I'd think you could get a better deal on a BRAND NEW 2004 55-6500 with a Duramax 7.8L. GM is dealing like mad on these new trucks.

It'd have to go for less than $25K for me to get all excited.
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Old 01-30-2004, 03:03 PM
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everything is brand new...plow, dump body, spreader, and central hydro.



i looked at just buying a cab and chasis got a couple of quotes on a full upfit just like this that ranged from about 15999-17999....so for me this sounds like a pretty good deal....and everyone i talked in this area about upfiting was saying 3-4 weeks and we need this this 2 weeks after the contract signing. I will have this truck in 5-8 days.


the mpg is not a huge problem this truck is most likely going to be left right on-site untill we need it.....definatly not a daily driver
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Old 01-30-2004, 03:27 PM
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Go to truck trader on line and see what they have. Gas trucks that size are real hard to sell. If you need a truck that bad and thats all you can find remember that the dealer doesnt want to sit on a gas truck or sit on a snow plow this late in the season.
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i guess i cant read. it does say 25,000 gvwr. duuuh. go with a diesel, more torque and better mileage. It will cost more in the short run, but diesel are designed to last. you will be alot happier with a diesel. even just plowing you will get awful milege. With a gas engine you will need to rev it up more and this will suck more gas.
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Old 01-30-2004, 10:00 PM
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I would look seriously at a GMC/Chevy 4500 or 5500 with 9.5 Ft Western Vee, and hopper style salt spreader, interest rates are low, get customer to sign a multi-year contract so the truck is paid for by contract. You should be able to plow 7 acres with one of these trucks in 5 - 6 hours if there are no major obstacles.
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Old 02-01-2004, 12:18 AM
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Don't Get a Gas Engine

They will not last as long and you will wish you got a diesel engine. Don't make a hasty decision there is only a few more months left in the snow season, can you take on the accounts without this truck and wait til spring to shell out the bucks...
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Old 02-01-2004, 07:51 AM
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His anticipated usage is IDEAL for the GAS engine.

Remember, on this DEAL, he doesn't HAVE an OPTION of a DIESEL. They were PENSKE trucks.

Is it the 454 for sure, or the 427 or 366?
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Old 02-01-2004, 11:06 PM
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TLS...it is a big block 454 for sure
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Since this was a rental truck would it be set up with rear differential gears for top road speed? When you use it for plowing would you want a different set of gears in the rear end to get power instead of speed? Low speed work with gears for high speed use may over-stress the transmission. Is a two speed rear end an option?
Also have you checked the rear tires - will they give you the traction you will want?
Just something to think about. I would prefer the gas to a diesel for what you are using it for.
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Stay far away from the 2 speed rear ends nothing but problems

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